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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 160 points 3 weeks ago

Iran is correct.

Israel is destabilizing the region further with this shit.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 64 points 3 weeks ago

We hear about Israel’s right to protect itself so often we almost forget that everyone has it.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Everyone, except Palestine and Lebanon

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[-] 4lan@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Can we just let the leaders duke it out? 1 on 1 knife fights. Leave the people out of this shit

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

If only.

[T]he ministers and generals of the two countries, dressed in bathing-drawers and armed with clubs, can have it out among themselves. Whoever survives, his country wins. That would be much simpler and more just than this arrangement, where the wrong people do the fighting.

  • All Quiet on the Western Front, written by a WW1 veteran
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[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Eye for an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye...

[-] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago

Except for the last guy who will still have one eye. How's the blind guy gonna take the eye of the guy with one eye left? All that guy had to do is run away and hide behind a bush. Gandhi was wrong.

[-] Brown_dude69@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 14 points 3 weeks ago
[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago

So great that there will not be a need for another. (this time for sure)

[-] Brown_dude69@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

How the hell a war is to end war.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

Can’t have wars when we’re all dying of nuclear fallout and/or nuclear explosion

[-] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

"The war to end war" (also "The war to end all wars";[1] originally from the 1914 book The War That Will End War by H. G. Wells) is a term for the First World War of 1914–1918. Originally an idealistic slogan, it is now mainly used sardonically,[2] since not only was the First World War not history's final war, but its aftermath also indirectly contributed to the outbreak of the even more devastating Second World War.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_war_to_end_war

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

There will come soft rains and the smell of the ground, And swallows circling with their shimmering sound; And frogs in the pools singing at night, And wild plum trees in tremulous white; Robins will wear their feathery fire, Whistling their whims on a low fence-wire; And not one will know of the war, not one will care at last when it is done. Not one would mind, neither bird nor tree, If mankind perished utterly; And Spring herself, when she woke at dawn Would scarcely know that we were gone.

[-] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

What were soldiers doing in hospitals and schools? It's almost like they wanted to get themselves blown up!

Oh, my bad. Wrong place. I got it confused with this one:

“A Major Massacre” in Jabaliya; Israeli Forces Raid Kamal Adwan Hospital in Northern Gaza, Killing Patients

Or maybe it was this one:

Israel strike on Gaza school-turned-shelter kills 17, hospital says

Damn, maybe it was this one:

Israeli attack closes last functioning hospital in north Gaza

Found it! I was thinking of this one:

Israeli shelling of Gaza school kills at least 22

Well, it's at least one of those.

[-] small44@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

So all of article mention that the claims comes from the most immoral army in the world

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's unlikely they'll attack before the election, if they do. They know every escalation is another vote for Trump, and even Iran doesnt want Trump in power. My guess is they're going to see who wins and what comes out of it before making any decisions.

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago

This analysis ignores the internal motivations for foreign policy.

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[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Iran doesn’t want Trump in power

Why not, would you say?

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 13 points 3 weeks ago

Trump is an even bigger Zionist supporter than Biden, which is pretty impressive considering how much support Biden gives them.

On top of that, he also did a lot of bad things towards Iran when he was president like sabotaging a deal Obama setup meant to ensure Iran has no nukes in favor of less sanctions and better relations. He also assassinated their top general Soleimani.

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[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 31 points 3 weeks ago

Can't disagree, every nation has the right to defend itself.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

To repeat immortal words of the sage ~~Pierce~~ Piers Morgan, "what should the Iranian government do?".

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 weeks ago

They could try not constantly funding and training groups commiting terrorist acts.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 77 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Absolutely. And the Israelis should dismantle the apartheid, end the occupation, get the fuck on their side of their 1967 border, and recognize the sovereign Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza. Plus, they should hand over their war criminals to the ICC and start a Truth and Reconciliation process. Throw in paying reparations, because why the fuck not.

Somehow I don't think though that ~~Pierce~~ Piers Morgan would accept that as a valid answer when he was asking "what should the Israeli government do". Do you? Because if you do, I will also accept your answer about the terrorist groups. 100%.

[-] ManixT@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

I'm up voting both of you and I'm sad about it

[-] sheogorath@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

I lost my shit when he interviewed Lowkey for the second time, and Lowkey asked him if he condemned Rupert Murdoch because he publicly funds illegal Israeli settlers, providing evidence to support his claim. All the life drained from his face, and he immediately ended the interview.

[-] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 4 points 3 weeks ago

Isn't his name piers? I feel like we should be making fun of him for that alone. Like who tf names their kid piers?

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

Pierce Morgan

Piers Stefan Pughe-Morgan actually, holy shit

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

“Piers Pussy-pooped WitSilver Spoon”

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[-] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago
[-] 3w0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

Hey don't be lumping us brits in with this twatbollocks!

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[-] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

No lies detected.

Godspeed.

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 15 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

“Alright, Israel has been a thorn in our side for too long! Launch the missiles!”

“Yes sir! Where shall we strike?”

“The outskirts of their cities in unpopulated, barren land. They need to know to fear us.”

“But sir, what if this merely causes them to accept that we are only a potential threat through our missiles and, given the absence of damage from our previous attack, they feel emboldened and destroy our manufacturing sites, silos, and launch pads.”

“Impossible. Strike their wastelands.”

Who could have seen this coming?

Edit: am I really the only one that saw this coming? Didn’t realize Hellen Keller had so many accounts.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

Iran was playing by Western rules, drop rockets on areas not likely to have casualties or be strategic. It's supposed to be a de-escalation. They didn't account for Israel clearly wanting to escalate this war into another regional conflict of them against the entire middle east.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I mean… it’s Netanyahu at the reins. To be honest, I’m not even sure whether he likes Israelis or dislikes Palestinians, he might just be a violence enthusiast bringing his hobby to work with him

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 3 weeks ago

When it comes to Israel this is a naive take. Hatred for Palestinians and other Arabs (especially those "intruding" upon their divinely promised lands) permeates all layers of Israeli society. You could get any Israeli politician (even the "leftist" ones) to rule and they'd do similar things, with maybe more or less effort into ceasefire negotiations.

[-] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Their divinely promised lands that they never had before 1940. Just reminding everyone that Western powers gave international Jews land that was already occupied, based on a book of fairy tales from the Bronze Age. We created this problem.

[-] solo@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

Please do keep in mind that Zionists and Jews are not synonyms. Jews have been opposing Zionism since its inception and keep doing so in large numbers. See also:

Our Approach to Zionism - JVP - Jewish Voice for Peace

Jewish Voice for Peace is guided by a vision of justice, equality and freedom for all people. We unequivocally oppose Zionism because it is counter to those ideals.

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[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 9 points 3 weeks ago

So...what really happened? Israel says it did a "crippling" attack on all of Iran's air defenses and ability to make drones and missiles. Iran says it intercepted most of the attack, limiting the extent of the damage, though with some fatalities (as definitively noted in the article). I've heard conflicting accounts of whether Israel fired from outside Iranian airspace or whether they were doing laps around Tehran. I've seen multiple videos of Iran's air defense in action, but these can be cherry-picked.

Obviously there is going to be an enormous amount of censorship, propaganda, and straight up misinformation. Good luck getting actual good info.

[-] b161 8 points 3 weeks ago

Damn straight.

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