voting foreign policy so you can be evicted locally. sounds like a solid decision
Voting against your interests, an American tradition
I'll assume your interests are fully aligned with the aggrieved minority, but consider their POV for a brief moment. Trump's talking about an end to the conflict, he's at the very least honest about what Netanyahu wants, and he's dunking on the islamophobic, mass-murdering Cheneys.
Arab Americans are well aware of Trump's racism, which is why they put their trust in liberals and went for Biden by a landslide. This is a pretty clear "fuck you" to those very same liberals for carrying out a genocide.
And Trump has said he wants it to go even farther.
What's farther than genocide? This was yesterday,
A mother from #Jabalia says: “They took all the children from their mothers and put them inside what resembled a pit or a hole. The tank came to circle around them repeatedly until their bones cracked under the pressure of dust and sand, amidst the screams of children and the wailing of mothers.
“After that, the soldiers came and started throwing the children towards the mothers, and whoever caught a child was ordered to carry him and move away quickly, with no guarantee that the child would be their own.
“Many mothers carried children who were not their own, and were forced to leave with them, leaving their own children in the hands of other mothers. This marked the beginning of a new chapter of suffering, with mothers searching for their children in the arms of other women, trying to calm the children they held until they found their real mothers.“
"President Donald Trump accused President Joe Biden of abandoning Israel after the incumbent said he would not supply the country with weapons it could use to invade Rafah."
Trump wouldn't offer even the token pushback that Biden has, and would likely ramp up the payments and weapons supplied to Israel.
When he was president before, he already massively cut aid to Gaza, and would probably do so again.
That's how you go farther
My fellow voter, Biden didn't hold back on Israel anywhere except in the imagination of the media
Anyone who is an Arab-American and concerned about the situation in the middle east, and who is voting for Trump, has to be a special kind of stupid. He's the candidate who hates brown-skinned people and who is backed by money that supports Jewish interests in the middle east because they think more death and destruction will force Jesus to come down from his cloud quicker. If these Arab Americans think Trump will offer Palestine or Lebanon even a modicum of help then they are fucking idiots.
Edit: Clarified some phrasing.
How many Arabs have you talked to about your theory that they're stupid? Democrats are literally exterminating them.
Seems like cutting off your face to spite the nose but also can't trust the polls and the DNC's messaging about Israel has been dogshit so who knows.
You know what?
This is a really good point. According to the article,
the margin of error of plus or minus 5.93 percent.
Meanwhile, it also said the poll was saying,
45 percent to 43 percent
So in the extreme case, rather than being down by 2 points for Harris, it could be up for Harris by almost 4 points.
Harris isn't going to alienate 300,000 Jewish voters in PA for 20,000 Arab voters in MI.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/22/politics/jewish-voters-pennsylvania-election/index.html
"The American Jewish Population Project at Brandeis University estimates there are about 300,000 Jewish voters in the Keystone State. When you consider that Joe Biden won Pennsylvania by less than 82,000 votes in 2020, and Trump by about 44,000 votes in 2016, the margins matter."
So there a shit ton dumbass Arabs then? Do they have their heads up their ass? Seriously are we sure this isn't Russian trolls. No Arabian could Seriously think Trump will be better for them then Harris? Or is it a sexiest thing because she a woman?
A lot of Arab-Americans are Christians, who have a problematic relationship with Arab identity.
The vast majority of US Jews want the conflict to end, something that can be done by a US president with a phonecall.
Harris declaring that she'll end the war would be a boost across this demographic, and I'd assume many others.
Could be done with a phone call, if Bibi gave two shits about what we think, and he doesn't. He really, really doesn't.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/22/opinion/gaza-israel-biden-netanyahu.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cje3zl0dq2ko
https://www.foreignaffairsreview.com/home/why-netanyahu-doesnt-want-a-hostage-deal
The phone call must include the magic words, "or no more weapons"
They don't need our weapons to shoot little kids in the head. Bullets are cheap.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/02/gaza-palestinian-children-killed-idf-israel-war
It doesn't matter if we cut off the supply or not, they don't need our weapons.
They absolutely do depend on the US lol, it's a vassal state.
Please educate yourself. Even Israeli academics admit this.
https://www.belfercenter.org/publication/israels-dependence-united-states-existential
https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-could-israel-manage-without-us-support-1001473884
Israel is, depending on how you count it, between the #8th to #10th largest weapons dealer in the world. They don't need OUR weapons.
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/top-10-largest-arms-exporters-in-the-world/
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-share-global-arms-exports-2022/
https://globelynews.com/world/world-top-arms-exporting-countries/amp/
What the hell are these links, "visual capitalist" lmao
Please use academic sources. A US colony isn't going to survive without US support
Links supporting what I'm telling you, depending on how you count it, Israel is the #8, #9, #10 largest arms exporter in the world.
Us telling them "Yeah, well, we're cutting you off..." means exactly nothing to them.
man you're obstinant. Israel selling weapons tech doesn't mean they can produce the physical bombs, missiles, tanks they need to continue the war let alone defend from a coordinated counterattack.
Benjamin Miller says it best,
"Israel cannot work alone. It needs financial aid as well as backing in the international arena from some major power. China and Russia are certainly not partners and Europe is very critical of Israel these days, and sensitive in the humanitarian field. Australia and Canada are also not a real option, because their tendency towards us is similar to that of Europe.
What does the US provide Israel in terms of foreign aid as well as in the diplomatic arena, which we would have a very difficult time doing without? Firstly, there is the defense aid, which in normal times amounts to $3.8 billion annually, about NIS 14 billion (Israel's defense budget, without US aid, is NIS 65 billion annually in normal times.) Also on the agenda today is aid totaling $14 billion to support the war, which has not yet been approved by Congress.
Apart from the two aircraft carriers that the US sent here at the start of the war, to deter Iran and Hezbollah, it has also been frequently supplying Israel with artillery and tank shells and as well as bombs for aircraft. "If the US stops aid in the field of armaments," says Miller, "That's a huge problem for Israel, because it also needs to stockpile weapons in preparation for a possible war against Hezbollah. In such a case, we will need a huge amount of weapons."
No less important than the aid that the US gives to Israel, Miller stresses, is in the use it makes for our benefit of the veto it has in the UN Security Council. Thanks to the US, several resolutions regarding a ceasefire in Gaza were thwarted in the last few months alone. "Since October 7, the US has used the veto three times in our favor," says Miller.
Prior to October 7, it looked like Israel has additional partners in the international arena in China and Russia. Only last June Netanyahu was proud about being invited to visit China by President Xi Jinping.
"That was also another conception that Netanyahu had before October 7 that has been shattered. The conception was that Israel could maneuver between the three great powers - the US, China and Russia - and supposedly benefit from all worlds.
https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-could-israel-manage-without-us-support-1001473884
All they need to do that is money, and they have the money.
So, to re-iterate:
Netanyahu isn't interested in what we have to say, and isn't threatened by our cutting off support.
There are two ways the genocide ends:
They kill every last Palestinian, devastate Gaza, Lebanon, the West Bank and, crap, throw in the Golan Heights too. Why not?
Someone steps in, forcibly separates Israel from the Palestinians, and MAKES them stop.
Nobody has the political willpower for #2.
What are you talking about? You can't turn money into tanks, someone with vast natural resources and industry has to sell them to you and that requires a relationship. The main purchaser of Israeli's tech is the US, which is done to help prop up our colony's eocnomy.
Please cite an academic or foreign policy expert that says israel survives alone.
Would you accept Netanyahu?
No? How about "Jerome M. Segal, retired as a senior research scholar at the University of Maryland School of Public Policy; he is president of the Jewish Peace Lobby."
"Israel’s per capita gross domestic product is over $40,000 — similar to that of France and Great Britain. We have defense commitments to them, but we don’t give them any military aid. To Israel, we provide around $1,700 a year for every Israeli family.
Israel has a vibrant economy that typically grows at over 3% a year. It’s GDP is over $400 billion, with U.S. aid only 1% of its economy. If we gave no assistance at all, just the amount of the annual expansion of its economy would cover the lost aid several times over. This aid program fails the needs test."
LMAO Netanyahu hahaha OK man
Can't refute the point? Of course not, because it's plain fact.
I don't know what to say. I'm giving you academic consensus from within Israel, and you respond with Netanyahu
And an economics expert. Missed that did you?
The econ professor is suggesting cutting off aid to encourage settlers to back off, and giving the money to Palestinian refugees. It's a bit tongue in cheek.
You're not going to find a serious person who thinks Israel can survive without a world power behind it.
the flames are lit and gondor is calling for aid; but only tankies are answering the call and the rest of rohan is too busy trying to convince themselves that genocide is okay so long as you don't genocide as hard as the other guy.
When there are but two choices, genocide is better than GENOCIDE.
Or you can do something else and be completely irrelevant.
Check it out, a confused tankie who got the wrong memo of talking points.
Better luck next time 🤷
Oddly enough, some of the people who survived long enough to see West Germany wanted there to be a monarchy established there...
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The Jewish voting block, although largely Blue by tradition, does have have a real alternative in the GOP candidate (since he'd stick with the Israel Prime Minister no matter how low they go in Gaza, no matter what, as long as he's not personally insulted).
This is part of the reason why Dems have had to walk such a fine line around Gaza - it's next to impossible navigate without offending either group. That said, it's difficult to understand folks of this persuasion who'd actively support the GOP guy here - both alternatives are bad so you'd actually pick the worse one?
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