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submitted 17 hours ago by otter@lemmy.ca to c/technology@lemmy.world

Privacy advocates got access to Locate X, a phone tracking tool which multiple U.S. agencies have bought access to, and showed me and other journalists exactly what it was capable of. Tracking a phone from one state to another to an abortion clinic. Multiple places of worship. A school. Following a likely juror to a residence. And all of this tracking is possible without a warrant, and instead just a few clicks of a mouse.

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[-] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Archive: https://archive.ph/bSrZR

tl;dr: It's basically a MAID attack, along with the usual suspects of social media, navigation, and weather apps.

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[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 19 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

this combined with the whole "your pager/phone is now a bomb" texture that the IDF decided to add into the mix should make for interesting times.

soon you will be the drone.

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[-] capital@lemmy.world 26 points 13 hours ago

Don't bring your phone.

Get a burner and set up call forwarding.

[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 21 points 13 hours ago

burner goes from your house, to abortion clinic, to your office, back to your house

Hmm, must be someone else, I don't recognize this number

-The Government

[-] capital@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

You really can’t think of a solution to this?

[-] Jtotheb@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago

You really think you came up with an airtight solution to device tracking that nobody in the industry has considered on a whim?

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[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 10 points 13 hours ago

Then how you gonna take a selfie in the bed?

Seriously tho, people need phones for everything, including their calendar and map and communication with their partner.

Not bringing a phone isn't an option

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

I can assure you that people don’t need instant access to calendars and maps. Smart phones are a convenience, not a necessity.

(Source - lived through the 80’s. Still alive to tell the tale)

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 8 hours ago

"And fuck all the other people who are addicted to smarphones. They don't matter" /s

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

No, they don’t. Because if they’re weak enough to allow themselves to become addicted to a device, that’s their problem to solve. Not even else’s.

Smartphones are a convince, a tool. Nothing more. If one can’t live without one- there’s a problem needing to be addressed.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

if they’re weak enough to allow themselves to become addicted to a device

That's not how addiction works.

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Believe it or not, digital cameras exist as standalone devices.

You can also buy an rf blocking bag for your phone.

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[-] basmati@lemmus.org 12 points 12 hours ago

There are alternatives to all of that. If you're going to do potentially illegal acts, and you don't want to rot in jail for the next however many decades until a scotus exists to set you free, take basic operational security into account and don't bring the corporate tracking device that cops can freely tap into.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 12 hours ago

Yes. And we need laws that provide this protection to everyone by default.

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[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Mapquest is still around, so that solves one problem. The rest can be alleviated by communicating in person with your partner and aligning on a plan to not get tracked (like partner driving you and leaving their phone at home).

In the absence of that help, friends or family you trust. A cab? The clinic probably has a phone to hail a cab when you’re there.

Disclaimer: I’m just providing work arounds, I’m not saying they’re ideal.

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[-] Waldowal@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago

Some additional info based on their published material (screenshot below). The software gets its data from "publicly available sources" which includes tracking information from many different online advertisers, public social media posts, etc. As we know, the advertising data can sometimes have your personal info attached - sometimes not. Babel Street claims to anonymize the data, but let's assume there is a $$ amount at which they won't.

So, theoretically, if you can successfully avoid ad trackers, and you don't post on social media platforms except where you want to be "seen", you can avoid this tracking (granted that seems quite impossible these days).

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[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Better to leave your phone at home (or better, in the pocket of someone who lives in your house and takes the same daily path as you do) if you are doing something that's currently illegal. Or in any situation where you are doing something legal that the cops are likely to break up.

The juror going home thing is terrifying but I don't think the government would be after you for fulfilling your civic duty.

[-] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 95 points 17 hours ago

Time to start casually walking by clinics en masse.

[-] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 55 points 17 hours ago

That does not sound like a viable long term solution to me.

[-] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 31 points 17 hours ago

It is something we can do right now though. Even the youth who can't vote yet can participate.

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[-] egrets@lemmy.world 45 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The EFF have a bit more general information about location data brokers. Well worth a read.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 12 points 13 hours ago

🤯imagine how much they spent only to to terrorise women

[-] mx_smith@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Looks like everyone should be getting these bags

[-] ech@lemm.ee 14 points 13 hours ago

I didn't read the article, but wouldn't the site see the phone as soon as it's taken out of the bag? Unless the plan is to leave the phone in the bag the whole time, at which point it seems easier to just leave it behind.

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