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No real chads would buy a shitty Tesla car, because real chads has old cars
I wonder how much longer it will be until the board of directors of the various companies he's involved in start a serious revolt and push to get him out of the company?
They used fake robots at their latest event. They were secretly controller by humans. Tesla is a scam company.
I'd buy an XPeng or a BYD or the like.
Well, good for you. Personally I'm not buying an internet connected Chinese car. If a car has the option of spying on you, and potentially be used in a hybrid attack, I'd prefer to get a car from a western manufacturer. And not Tesla either, Musk is too unstable and seems to be influenced by the same powers that has Trump's ball in a vise.
My current car is an internet connected EV, but it sure isn't Chinese or a Tesla.
Not only spying, these cars are just like all other Chinese products.
My Milwaukee tools were made in China and they are fantastic. Sure, some cheap chinese made stuff is crap but the higher end chinese products are every bit as good japanese or western made now.
It's interesting that two of his proposed three options are "hate" or "like." It seems like most people would have said "hate" or "love."
Apparently he has sufficient self-reflection that he knows he'll never be loved.
I was considering Starlink
Not anymore
In reality, the average person does care and doesn't follow news about Elon.
Techbros do techbro things and assume the loudest voice in the room is the leader. the blind leading the blind.
Pretty much up until 2020 I was thinking about a Tesla for my first EV. In '22 the time came for a new car and I went with a different EV because Tesla's quality control has plummeted due to Elon's reckless leadership.
I never liked Teslas for their lack of things like physical volume knobs for the stereo. In my brutal dictatorship, being an executive, manager, engineer or shareholder at a company that manufactures vehicles that installs touch screens at stations for required crewmembers will be punishable by death by coal power plant. "You have to take your eyes off the road to change the radio station." Report to your new job working for the power company. As fuel. Get on the conveyor belt, you'll know when your shift starts.
If I was going to buy an electric car, I'd get a Nissan Leaf if I didn't have a lot of money, but if I did have a lot of money, maybe I'd buy an electric BMW. They look pretty nice.
I've ridden in a BMW EV. I'm ... divided. It's not terrible (by any means!) but it doesn't seem to be quite what I'd look for at the price.
Fair enough, I have no idea what they're like to drive or ride in. I've just seen a few and I think they look cool. I also see more EVs of other brands so I guess there's more choice than ever.
I'll never buy one, and it's 66% because of him. The other 34% is the fact Tesla's are shit quality vehicles. Geico literally refuses to insure the cyber cuck. I didn't misspell that.
The cybertruck is bad enough, there is no spread misinformation that you read on Reddit
My pillow car!
Friend ran afoul of the Tesla's Drive-By-Wire. She had her car on automatic drive and it was speeding towards the bumper of another vehicle. She slammed on the brakes, but because the system has to switch from automatic to manual, the brakes didn't engage for a critical second. So she ended up jamming her car into the rear end of the vehicle in front of her, and her system recorded the event as "human error", because she was at the wheel when the collision occurred.
Now she's out several grand in repairs that her insurance won't cover, because she failed to let Tesla's autodrive system take responsibility for the collusion by trying to prevent it.
Stories like this are what make me incredibly hesitant to buy a Tesla.
As other commenters have said, this is just not how the system works. Something was misunderstood or some context was probably lost somewhere. I have driven a new-ish 2021 Model 3 as a daily, and there are basically 2 modes of auto driving. One is autopilot, which is very similar to adaptive cruise control with lane-keep assist in other cars. Then there's full self-driving, which is supposed to be you entering a destination and your car will take you there with minimal interference. You also need to pay out the wazoo for that FSD functionality. Tesla needs you to be vigilant in both cases, and you're responsible for a crash in both cases. Now onto the brakes, in either system, when you press the brakes, the car immediately applies brakes. On occasion, it's taken the automated driving system a second to shut off when I apply the brakes, but I have always felt the brakes immediately kick in. Teslas at the moment do not have brake-by-wire. They have throttle-by-wire (duh, EVs), and steer-by-wire on some of the more recent higher end models. All of them have a hydraulic braking system where your foot on the pedal is immediately converted to braking pressure. Your friend is mistaken, and the crash is their responsibility for not maintaining vigilance. Afaik, very few companies are at self-driving tier 3, which is where the company would be responsible for a crash. Tesla is not there yet.
As other commenters have said, this is just not how the system works.
I've got the dashcam footage and I know the driver. She can tell me when she hit the brakes, and she says she had the peddle as far down as it would go. The car didn't begin decelerating in the same way an analog breaking system would have. That cost her a critical second and resulted in her rear-ending the vehicle in front of her.
All of them have a hydraulic braking system where your foot on the pedal is immediately converted to braking pressure.
Then maybe the breaks were bad. Idk. But she had plenty of lead time (presumably thanks to the super-advanced cruise control or whatever you want to call it) at the beginning of the video. The vehicle simply didn't stop in time.
As someone who owns a Tesla, I can attest this isn't how the brakes work. We'd heard similar rumors to this effect and it was the first thing we tried on the test drive. The brakes are 100% functional 100% of the time, regardless of driving assist.
Even if "full self driving" (quotes intentional, that shit is not fully self driving) did cause an accident, the driver is perfectly capable of avoiding it by braking or taking over steering.
P.s. Fuck Elon Musk
Is that true for all Tesla models though? I was under the impression the newer models had blended braking, which would make this story somewhat plausible.
To the best of my knowledge, which includes a few minutes online trying to prove myself wrong, the brakes on all Tesla models are straight friction - no blending. Regenerative braking only happens when the accelerator is released. The friction brakes alone are sufficient to kick in ABS, so regen isn't needed to help stop the car.
After giving it some thought, I suspect the car wasn't stopping fast enough, so the driver took over and just didn't brake hard enough to prevent the accident (possibly because they were anticipating some amount of assist from regenerative braking). Underestimating how hard to brake is very common and is one of the primary reasons behind adding automatic braking systems.
Your friend lied to you.
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The Muskrat is the reason why I can't even feel good about anything SpaceX does. Every time they do something to propel space exploration forward, all I can think about is how he and his cronies are going to use it to privatize space for profits.
Every time i hear about SpaceX, I wonder how much further along we'd be if we had proper taxes and gave the money to NASA/ESA. Even if the answer is "about the same" then at least they treat their engineers well.
Every time they do something to propel space exploration forward. . .
Musk is trying to build the Dune future, not the Star Trek future
The alternative needed to be NASA, slow, methodical, maximum safety, maximum consideration, with patents benefiting society instead of a private class of shareholders who see it as just another gift in their portfolio.
Instead, we gave away the future to reckless profiteers, and starved the correct, societal scale project of growing beyond our world that could have provided a sense of common purpose and accomplishment as Mercury and Apollo did, which given we're at each other's throats would have been useful.
We won't get anywhere with people like Musk or any other avarice obsessed profiteer at the wheel, only heartbreak in trusting human lives to them as they cut corners and overpromise their capability.
Blame the Boomers on this one. They got the moon landing as kids and then thought the rest was boring so they cut funding once they made up a large part of Congress in the mid 80s.
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I'd buy an XPeng or a BYD
Why? They are only marginally better than a Tesla. And the software of the dashboard is designed for Chinese people who like UX and UI that look like the Aliexpress or Taobao website. Really unintuitive. Not to mention the post sales service is about as bad as the post sales service on your Huawei phone. I’d rather buy a KIA.
<gasp!> You mean they made a UX for their target market!? SAY IT AIN'T SO!
And the people I know with BYDs don't have any problems with post sales support. Perhaps you just need stronger consumer protection laws in your country.
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I do want the best car. I am rejecting Tesla as an option mostly on that basis. But it also feels nice to avoid directly giving money to Trickle-Down Elmo.
Nah, even if it was the best car, fuck Elon. I'd rather drive a shitbox.
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He went from "genius" to "dumbass" when he announced his hyperloop a decade ago, and finally to "someone I have perfect hatred for" in less than a few months given his recent conduct. I don't want his cars, I don't want his robots, I don't want to see his face ever again. He's a piece of shit. If he died, I'd be in line to piss on his grave.
Hyperloop was just a gambit to kill the train projects in california.
Like that needed help doing.
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