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[-] lemmy_user_838586@lemmy.world 82 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 34 points 1 month ago

Um, out of interest I went through their posts of the last week or so. Three were critical of trump, one was critical of biden

Perhaps a bit of cognitive bias going on there?

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

People had an utter panic attack about this a few months ago. It's just that they post so much stuff that their name becomes recognizable so people freaked out because they noticed some of it, a small percentile really, was critical of Joe Biden. They panicked and tried to ban the user from basically everything they could. Most of them never thought to look and see what you did which is this user basically posts ad nauseam everything they can find. Some of it critical of Biden some of it critical of trump most having nothing to do with politics at all.

I had thought that people calmed down and cooler heads had prevailed. I guess there's some weak-willed people still out there though.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Nice to know we're not developing a hivemind like on Reddit /s

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 23 points 1 month ago

Every chamber will form an echo. It's how humans are hardwired—to seek out community and belonging.

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[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Gurl please. There's a million "Trump is bad" articles. Why would I post duplicates?

[-] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Equal level of scrutiny > equal number of negative posts

Maybe there are a million "trump is bad" articles because there are a million unique reasons that trump is bad. We don't need a million "Harris is bad" articles to make it fair, we need legitimate comparison on equal ground. Nobody is insisting that you repost what's already been said, but nobody needs to hear "Harris is also bad" when the only reasonable goal of such a thing is to draw a false equivalency in order to either encourage people that voting for trump isn't actually all that bad, or discourage barely-motivated Harris voters from actually getting up off their asses to vote for her.

To be clear, Harris isn't perfect, but she's proven to be competent and capable of growth as a human being who is engaging in a similar human experience as other people and understands the actual struggles we endure, their causes, and has proposed some solutions. The other fucking guy is airing out personal grievances, bitching about consequences for his actions, and spreading blatantly racist lies about immigrants which would make Hitler himself blush.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

If anyone is legit not going to vote because of a negative news article posted by a stranger online... they're dumb AF.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You've been here a while and most have told you about how it looks time and time again.

Either you're the living embodiment of the Skinner "No, it's the children who are the problem" meme or you're a "hidden" Trumpet/Russian asset/Bot

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

And I keep saying I'm far left.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Then why are you so hell bent on helping Trump?

I see we have gone with option a, living embodiment of the Skinner meme.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I'm not a Democrat I'm not a Republican. It's the Democrats that are starting to court Republicans even praising war criminal Cheney. Politicians should constantly be critiqued. Hold their feet to the fire.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

You:

Politicians should constantly be critiqued. Hold their feet to the fire.

Also you:

Gurl please. There's a million "Trump is bad" articles. Why would I post duplicates?

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I've posted negative articles and memes of Trump many times. You see what you want to see.

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[-] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Welcome to America, where people think that Fox News is a legitimate news source because "'news' is right there in the name!"

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Oh, okay, glad all we needed was the smart votes and the votes from the deeply politically engaged.

It reminds me of other instances of left purity, where somehow large swathes of voters don't count because they're too dirty, or something.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

very little negatives about Trump…

The problem with lemmy.world is the lack of Trump-negative articles. There simply isn't enough of them.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 9 points 1 month ago

I don't see why that's a problem. This platform not gonna move vote as much as you like to believe, and reading news get you informed on the ups and downs. It's not like the ml/grad folks that only post bad thing about the west and only good thing about china/russia, i did see ozma post a wide variety of stuff.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

This platform not gonna move vote as much as you like to believe,

Man, none of us are gonna move serious numbers of votes. Yet elections are decided by millions of people who are engaging in civic behavior in the election and the lead-up to the election, every instance being inconsequential individually, but in aggregate deciding the future of nations.

"It's too small, it doesn't matter" is one of the ways the GOP pushes out consistent wins while the Dems flounder despite nearly every policy, some of moderate Dems and some of progressive Dems, being overwhelmingly popular in this fucking country. The GOP lacks popular policy positions, and yet because they continuously and consistently push their electoral viewpoints at EVERY turn, not just when it's 'big', they get electorally rewarded. They treat civic duty like a religious duty, and yet I have to limp my ass and beg people door to door just to fucking vote against fascism.

... alright, I've never begged. My anxiety is bad enough that I keep things polite. But the point stands.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 9 points 1 month ago

I know the anxiety is high in US, and while the rhetoric works in real life, i doubt it did anything in lemmy, a platform of 50k user that mostly made up their mind, to the point they will call any dissenting voice as people against them. While it makes sense because of how notorious the reds are, from the outside it really looks pretty much like idolising a party not dissimilar to the reds. I mean, you guys can't just accusing republican for idolising trump while at the same time idolising harris, that's just hypocrisy.

Disclaimer, i'm not from the US so i can't do much, but i did went through the same thing for the past two elections of my country, to the point the party i voted for is now working together with the one we worked hard to defeat two elections ago. Try give Malaysia election 2018/2022 a read, it's insane.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
  1. Very few people idolize Harris. Hell, Harris is not particularly popular even within the Democratic Party. The issue is that banging the drum on all the reasons not to vote for her two weeks before it's decided whether we're going under a literal fascist regime, or getting another four years of time to unfuck as much as we can, is a strategically stupid decision from any actor who doesn't want fascism. Yes, Harris is a moderate who supports all the long-standing fuckwaddery of US foreign and domestic policy. No, that's not particularly relevant ten metaphorical minutes before an election with a candidate who supports all the long-standing fuckwaddery of US foreign and domestic policy getting much worse as a core ideological aim.

  2. The idolization makes it ridiculous, but the essential difference between the two parties isn't that "GOP idolizes its candidate while We, The Clear-Sighted, do not!", the essential difference is "The GOP has openly announced that it's going for a fascist regime, and the Dems don't want that." If someone were insane enough to start plastering Harris's head on Rambo Trump style, man, it'd be worthy of mockery, but even if it was widespread, it wouldn't change that one party is essential to support in this election over the other. We want another four years of not-fascism so we can reinforce and build new structures against fascism. Maybe even a better world, though for the next few weeks I'm focused on not getting sent to a concentration camp.

  3. If you think that a platform of 50k isn't enough to be worth talking to, I dread to consider what you think of attending town halls.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 6 points 1 month ago

If you think that a platform of 50k isn't enough to be worth talking to, I dread to consider what you think of attending town halls.

Look, i know it's a desperate time now, but to take the 50k in lemmy as undecided rather than an echo chamber is another level of desperate. Like, come on man.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

You think the population in a town hall is mostly undecided? I assure you, it's not.

We do what we do in the hopes that one or two votes might come out of it. That's all we can do. And there sure as shit are plenty of people here who are on the fence about voting, or voting Dem.

[-] Ephoron@lemmy.kde.social 8 points 1 month ago

I have to limp my ass and beg people door to door just to fucking vote against fascism.

Rather than beg your party to adopt the policies all the data shows would actually win then this election?

What on earth makes you think the best 'evelenth hour' strategy is to try and persuade thousands of people to vote, but that it's apparently "too late" to persuade a single executive to change one policy?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I can never tell if you people are in bad faith or just legitimately so detached from a realistic view of politics that that sounds profound to you.

Aw, did you get so upset that you decided to downvote everything I commented in the last day? lmao. I guess anti-genocide and anti-billionaire comments are worth a downvote in your eyes. Didn't have you pegged for a Zionist or a capitalist, but I guess they come in all shapes and sizes.

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[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 month ago

Yes, it's important to stop Trump. But don't fool yourself into thinking that Harris has your best interests at heart. She sees the people as a tool she must convince to get into a position of power. Not as someone who she should serve.

[-] juergen@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 1 month ago

I won't argue over whether she does have my best interests at heart. It. Does. Not. Matter.

I don't want to marry her, I want her to keep Trump out of office - and right now, she is the only one who can.

Fun fact: Most exterminators don't have your best interest in mind - they just want to make a living. Yet, they do keep the bedbugs away, so it's all good.

[-] zazo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago
[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 month ago

It seems you didn't read my first sentence. OP implied that Harris will do positive things. She will not. She is nothing more than the lesser evil.

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[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 33 points 1 month ago

Harris could sit in the Oval Office and spin around in her chair for four years and still be an immeasurably better president than Trump.

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[-] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Decades of civil service would beg to differ. Of course all politicians in a democracy need to sway voters to vote for them, but it's absurdly cynical to believe that no politician in any democracy ever has given any fucks about the well-being of their constituents. Unless you're saying that this is something mostly unique to her, which is equally silly. I have my doubts about how much of her campaign promises can actually be delivered on, mostly due to congressional Republicans who will definitely stonewall everything possible, but it's outrageous to claim without any supporting evidence that Harris is uninterested in serving the people when she's already been doing so for her entire career.

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[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

What if I told you... Harris needs to do more positive things to get voters to want to vote for her.

[-] Rookwood@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Very true, but much more difficult because Harris actually has to commit to something positive. It's easier for the astroturfers to just throw dirt at Trump.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 16 points 1 month ago

Trump deserves all the dirt thrown at him.

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[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

My favourite is telling a trumper I don’t fucking care what they think.

Letting the air out of their sails is more entertaining when it’s become obvious they are living for the drama of controversy and feeling their opinion matters so much to someone else than the message itself.

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[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i think the bottom text has it wrong.

this is probably a stronger argument to get people to vote for her:

"Kombucha Girl" meme, disgusted face what she'll do

"Kombucha Girl" meme, reconsidering face what her opponent won't be able to do if she wins.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

let me know when she stops supporting a genocide, promises to retain Ms Khan, and actually has detailed plans for inflation/health care and then i'll care.

[-] multifariace@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Has she shown regret as a proponent of profits in the California prison system at the expense of humanity?

[-] xenoclast@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Has Trump? Is it worth giving up your right to democracy over? Giving up the health and welfare of ALL women. The future of the world over? No it fucking isn't.

Vote, and then you can go back to being a faceless idiot on the Internet or bot or whatever.

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[-] Subverb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

What if I told you: No Shit

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Part of the fucking problem is that Dems seem to have kinda given up on ever getting anything nice. The only thing that matters is "BEAT TRUMP". Healthcare, civil/labor rights, debt relief, the anti-war movement, environmental protections, business regulation, green infrastructure development... none of that is even being offered up.

The only thing you hear is "Whatever position you have, know that Trump will be worse than Harris, so you have to vote Harris". How do you go up to someone's door and ask for their vote on those grounds? What do you say to someone who looks at Trump and Harris, shrugs, and says "They look the same to me"?

It isn't the MAGA voter that you have to worry about. It's the voter that's been getting burned election after election by disappointment and can't be bothered this time around.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

What do you say to someone who looks at Trump and Harris, shrugs, and says “They look the same to me”?

What do you say? You say "are you suffering a stroke, would you like me to call you an ambulance?"

Americans aren't being given a real choice here, too bad, but that's how it is. Anyone who is eligible to vote but doesn't realise Trump is a genuine threat to democracy the world over maybe shouldn't be allowed to vote.

If you were caught in someplace where you didn't have access to water, and the only choices were a bottle of piss with blood in it (Trump, in this metaphor) and a warm, stale coke light (Harris, in this metaphor), which one would you choose? Neither of them are particularly enjoyable or healthy in the long run, but if you were in a place which had no access to fresh water (spelling out my metaphor here, but democracy), you would die without consuming liquids. Still, you probably wouldn't choose the pissy blood, because that'd actually be dangerous to drink no matter how dehydrated you were. A warm, stale coke light would still be a functional drink, no matter how much you'd never choose it if you had an option.

See where I'm going?

Chomsky did have a good point once about how there's a difference of the type of lack of democracy that you can see between America and Russia. (I'm Finnish, btw, fuck Putler.) He made the point that Americans tend to like to think they have a choice, whereas Russians are pretty openly certain they don't. As a heavy exaggeration, that is. I don't recall which book it was, but I think it was honestly one of his books from the 70's about linguistics, which made it weird, since it started with a chapter about CIA shenanigans and propaganda.

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[-] Zansuvobr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

She does not exhibit leadership qualities. It's going to be preaching to the converted, because only the converted could be so blind to her failings.

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