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They are supposed to be grown from spores, so what use are ork nipples?

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[-] OneCardboardBox@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 days ago

Maybe they're not mammal nipples, but happen to look like it.

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Is there a lore reason why that mushroom has a nipple?

[-] Bougie_Birdie 67 points 3 days ago

You see this discourse come up from time to time in other fantasy settings. I remember there being quite a stir over whether lizardfolk in other media should have breasts.

I'm not deep into the Warhammer lore, but there's a few things I know about orkz:

  • They grow from spores like a fungus
  • They were manufactured by some other race as a sort of guardian caste
  • They have potent psychic powers that manipulate reality around them

My theory is that the folks who created the orkz had nipples themselves. Impressionable young orkz saw that their creators were fully grown and had nipples, so maybe they thought they ought to get some as they mature. If they believe that should happen, then it'll find a way to happen.

Later orkz would have seen that the previous generation of orkz had nipples, so they would continued growing in this way.

[-] cobysev@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago

They have potent psychic powers that manipulate reality around them

I read once that this is why they paint their vehicles red. Because they believe that red makes it go faster, and with their latent psychic ability, the red ships actually DO go faster, because they believe so strongly in it.

[-] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago

My personal favorite, some kommandos believing painting themselves purple would make them sneakier because no one's ever seen a purple ork.

[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago

Commissar Yarrick can kill Orkz by staring at them real hard because they believe he can do so.

[-] Droechai@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

That he installed an eye socket laser to reinforce their belief in the death stare might help with lethality too

[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Oh sure, but the rumors of the Bale Eye existed before the implant did. That thing is only about as strong as a laspistol. Sure it'll burn a hole through your trousers but it's isn't about to explode a charging Ork into bloody chunks. All that power comes from the gestalt field, presumably.

[-] Klear@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

There's also the fan theory that the only thing keeping the Emperor barely alive is the combined power of all Orks who consider him a worthy and immortal opponent.

[-] Flamekebab@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago

Is there a single canonical citation for this? It feels like a meme.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

One of the old codex books. It's going back decades however. The works have changed a lot from that era. It was the same codex as the buzzer squig catapult, if that helps narrow it down.

[-] Flamekebab@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

The spore lore was only implemented in 1997. Before that their reproduction worked differently.

[-] BorisBoreUs@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

... honestly, the most likely argument is that they saw other races and collectively assumed they ought to have nipples too (oi! why dem pink skins 'ave dots on em? Orkzz ought 'ave em too!! wauuugh) also and so they manifested them. now its just part of their genetic code and none of them ask why anymore.

[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Orkz are no strangers to krumpin' gitz because they aren't Orky enough though. Even their own clan. I find it hard to believe they'd be easily peer pressured into having nipples, let alone by other species.

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

That's not peer pressure, that's cultural osmosis. If other species tried to force them to have nipples, then they would resist

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

Where do you think orc milk comes from?

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

Same place you get bull milk.

[-] SinkingLotus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

With that consistency I think the milk spoiled.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 34 points 3 days ago

Well they're an evolutionarily manufactured race, so likely the base template had them originally but post intervention they remained as a vestigial organ.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago

So... A lazy creator? That tracks.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago

I mean, what exactly would be the point of dedicating the effort to removing them?

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Fair point. GW is notorious for the least effort possible, and then clawing for more from their willfully blithe fanbase. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago

Lore hasn't clarified it officially but I suspect their nipples are just a specialized form of squig.

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

What use are nipples on males?

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago
[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Hmmm. Can't say I've licked one personally, but I see what you're seeing. I guess I meant an actual use for them. More of a rhetorical question I guess.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

I guess I meant an actual use for them.

Licking is an actual use.

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

It is. I wasn't being specific enough, sorry. Actual use in terms of evolutionary fitness. There are no reasons for them evolutionarily other than they are a byproduct of fetal development.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Anything that makes people hornier and more likely to procreate is an evolutionary advantage.

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I suppose you're right. It's not just things that help things live longer or thrive in a specific environment.

[-] Strider@thelemmy.club 5 points 3 days ago

That's the thing with natural selection though, as long as a trait isn't deleterious and it's common enough it'll generally stick around. There's no pressure for males to not have nipples.

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Totally agree with your point. But it's also not something that will actively promote fitness.

[-] Strider@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Doesn't matter. There's no reason to not have nipples, and going down the evolution rabbit hole to change that isn't worth the random mutations that are more likely to just straight up kill males during development or something. In biology fitness just means the ability to successfully reproduce, not actually who's stronger or more efficient. Your entire body is built on the concept of, "good enough to get the job done."

[-] zaph@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

Because males were females until the right amount of chemicals were introduced to the fetus. Take enough estrogen and males can produce milk and no longer have useless nipples.

[-] HatchetHaro 2 points 3 days ago

sexual stimulation

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

They actually are capable of producing a small amount of milk, it's just that doing that requires so much effort for so little reward that feeding babies became the mother's job after a few thousand generations of mammals being a thing.

[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

They have been engineered by the Old Ones. So I’m just gonna assume, they didn’t think of that when the Necron and C’tan came knocking on their doors.

[-] BorisBoreUs@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

psychological warfare. First thing the Necron & C'tan did in battle was hesitate thinking, "wtf? do those monsters have nipples?"

[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Causing a couple of circuits to burn out. Kickstarting the Flayed Ones.

I am adapting this as headcanon now.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

For the same reason why some of the Necrons have nipples: intimidation.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 7 points 3 days ago

Do Ork nipples also cut glass?

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

No. For Orks, it's all about size and color.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Boss color iz yella, but yella nipple iz not lucky. Yella nipple iz most shot nipple. Iz mostly scar tissue now. Still yella.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

If Batman and Robin can have nipples, orks can have nipples too!

[-] Flamekebab@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago

Which Ork models have nipples?

I can't say my knowledge of the current range is exhaustive, but I can't think of a single model that has one from the 1998 - 2016 era. There's a runtherd with a piercing where a nipple would be, but no nipple.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 3 days ago

Because they collectively agreed that they should have them.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

what if the spores get thirsty?

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