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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago

This isn't what's happening, though. The Dems and Reps are aligned on Israel because it isn't a moral issue, but economic, which is why Biden has given Israel everything they want, including approving the invasion of Lebanon. The US supports Israel as a settler-colonial project because it helps the US secure power in the region, securing the Petro-Dollar as the world currency. This is how the US exploits the Global South, through predatory IMF loans, aka Imperialism.

Read To Stop Marx, They Made Zion. The genocide of Palestinians is for economic reasons, it cannot stop without a One-State Solution.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago

the funniest part about this post is that trump and kamala's statements here are functionally identical, differing only in the phrasing.

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 21 points 2 months ago

I really can't understand why people fail to get this.

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[-] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Another post that makes me further double down on voting 3rd party. It is because of this mentality that not enough people vote 3rd party to make a difference. Also, I refuse to reward genocide.

I would also like to add Trump being worse isn't a good argument because this administration has let israel do all it wants and given them every weapon and funding.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 months ago
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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 19 points 2 months ago

This is not a 1000 year conflict.

Israel cannot perpetrate it's crimes without the backing of the USA.

Stop excusing genocide and colonialism.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Imagine a scenario with multiple political parties competing to defeat the Republicans. With more representative electoral systems, voters could choose any candidate they prefer, ensuring that even if their choice doesn’t win, their vote can still be counted against the republican party with no spoiler effect. Since voting methods are determined at the state level, we don’t need to wait for federal changes; some states have already implemented electoral reform. Alaska recently picked a more moderate conservative over Sarah Palin because of Ranked Choice voting

Who would oppose having multiple chances to take power from the Republican Party? The Democratic Party would. In states they control, they could replace First Past The Post voting with an electoral system without a spoiler effect. Yet year after year, election after election, the democrats sit on their hands and do nothing about FPTP voting.

Democrats frequently acknowledge the shortcomings of FPTP voting, and have done so for longer than I’ve been alive. Just mention voting for a third party to any Democrat, and they’ll readily express their awareness of the flaws in the voting system used by most states. Comments for articles about the Green Party will further illustrate their understanding of this issue.

The Democrats seem to prefer the country balancing over a fire pit of fascism rather than truly competing for our votes. Party over country at all costs.

[-] JC_Rev@midwest.social 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"1000 year conflict"

Year of Israel's creation: 1948

Start of Gaza genocide: 2023

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[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

When strawman versus just one person isn't anywhere near enough

[-] Sasha 17 points 2 months ago

I really don't get how people see shit like libs saying you have to vote for Harris or you'll get what's coming to you when Trump comes to power, as anything but voter intimidation.

If the Dems lose the election then that's squarely on them for not having good policy, it's up to them to win voters. How can you look upon someone rejecting genocide and hate them for it? How is that position so hard to understand?

For what it's worth I think people should vote Harris but I can't fault anyone for refusing to do so.

Imagine willingly posting pro-imperialist propaganda and thinking that makes you morally superior...

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[-] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago

The multiple typos in Harris's statement point to the author either being lazy or trying to portray her as an idiot

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[-] cashsky@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Please look up Brett Mcgurk before you praise Biden and Kamala's stance on Israel. Literally following Bush era policies in the Middle East.

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[-] Juice@midwest.social 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Utterly breathtaking amount of historical confusion.

After WW1 the British, who were the major imperial colonial power at the time, though on a steep decline, had already decided that the strip of land we now know as Israel/Palestine was a strategic necessity in order to ensure a divided and weak middle eastern political arrangement, which could be exploited by mineral and oil investors. The old colonial system was clearly on the way out, and needed to be replaced by a system of international finance neocolonialism that came to prominence after WW2 with the Marshall Plan.

So they knew they couldn't just colonize Palestine, it was against their interests as the seat of international finance capital. This was outlined in broad strokes in the Balfour Declaration written by James Balfour sent to Lord Lionel Rothschild, later adopted with the League of Nations Mandate in 1921. So they backed the Zionist project and started encouraging Zionists to move to Palestine which had an existing Jewish population and whose government was generally tolerant of these Zionists who brought with them lots of foreign capital to invest. This plan continued until WW2 when the industrial economies of Europe, and especially Britain were utterly destroyed by the war. The USA, which had stayed out of the war as much as possible until the battle of Stalingrad that turned the tides against the Nazis, had wanted this since it could then establish itself as the world's industrial powerhouse and seat of neocolonial finance capital. After a period of mass industrialization, this is exactly what happened.

But of course the international finance capitalists, wherever they were stationed, had a plan in place for the region of Palestine; and a few years later, with backing of the international community, we have the tragedy of the Nakba.

100 years of conflict, engineered by the international ruling class of our current world. Obviously regional tensions existed, Muslim and Jewish tradition goes back a very long time and has occupied the same parts of the world for much of it, but the period of peace that existed in the region of Palestine was 500 years long before the British carved up the Ottoman empire for their own benefit.

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