Also important to know, if democrats take back the house, Johnson would no longer be speaker at the time the presidential election is certified. It's the next congress, not the current one, that will certify the vote. New congress is seated on January 3rd 2025, and the presidential election certification is on January 6th 2025.
Exactly right. I almost typed the same thing before I read your comment.
Congress writes the laws. They can even amend the Constitution with 2/3 majority. Whoever controls Congress controls the nation’s direction.
Please vote.
If they take control of both houses of congress, I would like to think one of the first things they would do is expand the supreme court with the justification that denying Obama an appointee was straight-up unforgivably unethical. And suspend the filibuster to do it.
You're giving them far too much credit before the fact. I'd be very surprised if the Dems did anything to the court unless there's an open seat.
I hate the fact that you're probably correct.
No, that's why I said "I'd like to think." Because I don't.
This. So much this.
Speaker Johnson has no role in certifying the election, that's the job of the President of the Senate, Kamala Harris.
It takes 1/5 of the house and 1/5 of the Senate to object to election certification results. He's the leader of the Republicans in the house and could lead them to these objections. You're supposed to have evidence of some kind of wrongdoing but.... Welp.
Edit: Was informed by a comment above that if Dems take the house, he would no longer be speaker at the time of the certification. Certification is Jan 6, but the new Congress is installed on Jan 3. VOTE!
The House and the Senate hold a joint session. He'll have some ceremonial participation, which he could use to stall and obstruct, but he can't really stop the certification process.
Jesus fuck I so wish that the producers in the back room would just tell the anchors to rhetorically take the gloves off when Trump or Vance or some other fuckstick tries to outright lie and propagandize with racist and nationalist ~~dog~~ whistles on national fucking television. Or at the very least just cut their mic and tell the idiot fuck to leave immediately or be escorted out.
Only one side of the desk is conducting the interview in a civil fashion. The other refuses to. This is the paradox of tolerance in action, live, on television, streaming to the whole fucking country.
You gotta remember that the heads of these media conglomerates are rich people at the end of the day. A lot of their interests align with Trump. The irony is Trump screams and cries that the media is biased against him, the very media constantly and actively propping him up.
Oh I know.
The anchors clearly wish so too. As evidenced by the network running the second debate agreeing to no muting of mics or fact checking. Only for the moderators to do both.
If that happens, the cons should remember that their court gave Biden the ability to do whatever he wants while still in office.
I believe it is subject to to the court's rule.
Don't worry, the ones who are left will rule in his favour
which will be the proof that Dems want to seize power.
As far as I'm concerned, if they actually refuse to certify the election and try to tip the US into an authorization regime, the gloves come off. No more worrying about how things look, how the Republicans will feel, how they will respond when it's their turn. They don't get another fucking turn after that.
Yup, at that point, round up Musk and Thiel, Leonard Leo, the Repubs who refuse to certify, the Jackasses on the court, the rich assholes who have bribed the jackasses on the court, and anyone who has any power at all and on project 2025 or their schedule F list, and put them up against the wall.
Biden should then pull the trigger on Trump and Vance (for that personal touch) and then take his place at the end of the line. Because once house has been cleaned, the cleaner is also reveled to be a monster needing to be put down.
But yeah, I doubt Biden will have the balls to do any of that.
To which a President may say, "the court and what army?"
Put the ghoul back in the closet. Harris, you've dropped 4 points since adopting the "lets campaign with the family who destroyed a generation" political dynasty.
Why are you platforming Liz fucking Cheney? I heard the grand wizard of the KKK is worried about a Trump presidency, why don't we interview him? Maybe do a seance and see how Henry Kissinger feels.
And here we have a prime example of cutting off your nose to spite your face...
Do you think platforming Liz Cheney looks good to anyone who isn't already "vote blue no matter who"?
Trump managed to look dovish next to the butcher of Libya in 2016, despite his big criticism of her Libya policy being that we didn't steal their oil. Using a torture advocate to represent your party does not help your cause.
Yes. There do still exist Republican voters who imagine or want the Republican party to be what it was in the pre-Trump days. It is those people she is speaking to.
“For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin!”
Yall learned nothing in 2016. Fascists will never vote for diet-fascism when the real thing is right there.
She's on the right side of this issue, and has been publicly, at great personal cost. Let her help for Christ's sake.
Associating with a torture advocate who claims Obama is a Kenyan Muslim is a bad look, even if they're correct on this one issue.
The people who like her, islamophobes who believe the CIA should be torturing muslims who have never been charged with a crime, are not going to vote for Kamala. Even if Kamala came out and said she and Liz Cheney were going to feed every Muslim to a wood chipper, those people will still vote for the party everyone knows hate Muslims more.
The people who don't like her, people who believe in basic human dignity, are more likely to stay home when they see the democrats trotting her out.
There's millions of other people who are right on this issue, most of them have not spent the last 20 years defending the Iraq war.
Maybe do a seance and see how Henry Kissinger feels.
Of all the shitty things happening recently it's always nice to be reminded that Kissinger is finally dead. At least sometimes good things happen.
I hadn't thought of that but yeah this is how Trump wins. This is going to be so hilarious. I'm sure Democrats will blame everyone but themselves for coddling the fascist GOP for generations.
I’m sure Democrats will blame everyone but themselves
It's definitely going to be the fault of
Jill Stein, for winning a critical swing 0.4% of the vote
Muslim Voters, because they secretly approve of the genocides in the Middle East and hope Trump will do them even harder
Evil Foreign Governments, the root cause of everything bad on the internet. They want a Trump Presidency because he will cause US foreign policy to become weak, soy, and too friendly to foreigners
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