Ram 1500, a pickup truck slightly bigger than the Panzer I tanks of Nazi Germany and almost as heavy
That sounded like bs, so I went searching, but apparently it's correct. Panzer I is only slightly wider (by about 5 cm) and smaller in other regards. Eff me
Insane stat and glad they made the comparison
So you're saying that one can technically drive a Panzer tank in the USA
I have a feeling someone has tried already
This will not go well.
Europe is not designed for oversized cars. As soon as you are off the "A" roads, it is goat tracks in every direction. And, you can forget about parking. Regular cars have enormous trouble already. Every new car gets panel damage within a couple of weeks. Put those monster US vehicles in the villages it will be carnage.
Europe is not designed for oversized cars.
Too many drivers are selfish morons and will manage to cram their oversized vehicles into any space without consideration for the safety of anyone outside their own bubble. Doesnt matter if the city was "designed" for it or not.
I was just in Bellagio Italy last week. For some reason, cars are allowed to drive through the medieval city center through extremely narrow roads packed with pedestrians... Which is OK if you're driving a fiat 500.... But this oversized jeep cherokee drive right through town, with barely any space for pedestrians to move aside. I'm not sure if it was a lost tourist or a local resident, but drivers should not be trusted to pilot such a vehicle through crowds with so little margin for error.
A truck is a tool
Nah, that's usually the person driving it.
The thing is, a truck is a tool, or used to be at least. I had an old little Toyota truck. Two seats and could haul as much construction materials or debris as any one person could manage.
These trucks are impossible to work with. Massive cabs that shorten the bed, lifted frames with beds that break your back loading stuff, terrible fuel economy. They’re as much about utility as lacy underwear.
Oh yeah, to be clear, no disrespect to people who use trucks routinely for their intended purpose.
Up to you if you want to adopt this, but I've taken to calling those tiny, useless afterthoughts tacked onto modern trucks "vestigial beds".
Vestigial beds that’s hilarious
I wish my 94 ford ranger hadn't been such a piece of shit. It was my first vehicle and that little truck would have come in clutch a lot over the years, but alas.
Half of my country's streets can't be driven in those cars, they are just too big...
Not with that attitude.
But t of course the tarifs are for Chinese electric cars, not for those waste of space, enormous polluters, dangerous for the other road users "cars".
As an American, I'm so so so sorry in advance. These things come with some sort of feature that requires them to drive 30cm behind you, no matter how many kph over the speed limit you're going.
With their high beams blasting directly into your eyes from your mirrors.
See, there's the problem. You're driving 33 kph but trucks can only go in mph so you're slower. Learn to freedom better.
Really, I don't get the appeal, that's the weirdest thing about this. If this was an article about impractical and irresponsible racing cars getting popular and the objection was that they consume too much fuel, they drive too fast increasing safety risks and they only have 2 seats meaning less people moved per car, I'd lament the trend in the same way, but it'd be a story of how we tragically can't stop ourselves from stupid but understandable excess. It's easy to understand for example why obesity is hard to combat because at a basic level and all other nuance aside, generally, we like eating, and typically the foods that most lead to obesity are easily the most liked by people in general too.
But these fucking American truck things are bad for all the same anti social reasons as a sports car might be and more but they're also not appealing in the slightest, they look awful, they don't go fast and all the dubious "utility" value, even taken at its word, is such a weird thing to try to appeal to the masses with. Selling things like this to people who don't need them used to rely on a kind of "sex appeal", if it was a sports car your customer might never be able to actually drive it as fast as it can go but the idea that they theoretically could is sexy and it has those lines designed to feel like it goes fast, who the fuck thinks "ooh I could fit so much lumber in that thing" and gets a weak at the knees? It sounds about as exciting as selling something on fuel efficiency isn't. Somehow though, not only Americans apparently, but like everyone wants these things? I am baffled. Did we all go to some mass brain washing event and I slept in that day? What is this?
Have you driven one? If not, try it out and you may understand the appeal.
I would never buy one myself, but their comfy as all hell to drive, it's like driving a lazy boy. You are really high up, so other than the blind spots you feel like you can see really well. Any road bumps are essentially negligible. Curbs or other things that you might have to worry about in a small car, you can just drive right over. If you want to bring something somewhere, it's super convenient to just toss it in the bed.
I grew up in rural farm type life, and a pickup truck was just a given.
As long as you don't care about other people or the environment, it's a nice vehicle.
But you're talking about rural life, which is almost non existant in Europe. If you go to the countryside roads are small. So maybe small size pickup could make sense. But I see them all the time in city center, and they look like some kind of masculinity statement.
I guess that's making a bit more sense. Strange though, seems like you have to experience it first to want it.
Clearly we're going to need regulations around personal vehicle size limits on the road. If you legitimately need a big truck for your business, get a licence for it.
The truck in the photo is absolutely hilarious and all the wrong ways.
It's got early 2000s fast and furious rims.
It's got that 1980s camper thing on the back.
The driver is like sitting halfway back the vehicle. I don't think the front side of that entire truck could fit in the bed.
That vehicle doesn't know if it wants to be an SUV, a van, or a truck. Really I think it got them all wrong. Slightly less awful than the Tesla truck.
They are defintly becoming more in Germany thanks to the fucking Amarok.
And I understand that there might be valid reasons to buy an Amarok, but I've never seen them used by anyone, but suburbanites who use them as a personal ca4.
Yea I see more and more of them. And it's always the same kind of dickhead. Driving alone with no load, parking in the handycapped spot and taking the right of way.
US obesity even effects our autos.
I think the demand here isn't driven by soccer mums picking up their 1 grocery from sainsbury's. I think it's driven by people who can't afford a house, and can't afford rent and will settle at least for a portable tank that they have space to sleep in.
Homeless people aren't buying new trucks.
Let's just say the definition of "homeless" people has expanded quite a bit in the last decade. Plenty of homeless people work 9-5 jobs.
But are they buying expensive trucks? Still doubtful.
There are people working at Google living in their Tesla because they can't afford rent in Silicon Valley
Ford also famously runs ads (in the US) boasting about their lie-flat drivers seats in their trucks because so many people can afford a truck payment but not a rent payment.
Beats being on the streets which is almost impossible to come back from.
The collapse of Western society is being witnessed by hearing anecdotes on forums until you’re the one in the anecdote.
The disadvantaged are simply swept into the streets to die, and washed into the gutters afterwards (Newsom, anyone?).
Ironic, considering how often people lose their shit over fabricated Tiananmen propaganda.
Care to expand on the Tiananmen propaganda comment?
There are a lot of western narratives about the June 4th incident that are atrocity propaganda contradicted by western reporting at the time of the incident
The incident?
The June 4th incident is what it is called in mainland China.
What what is called?
Oh fuck he is trying to make me say "tiananmen square massacre" now Xi is going to personally come to my house and eat all my grain with his giant spoon.
Or maybe I say June 4th incident because it didn't happen in tiananmen square and massacre isn't the right word for it, considering it was armed PLA vs western armed protestors with around equal casualties before it ended.
No, I was just trying to drag out of you how you see the incident without priming the pump. How does one minimize the killing of hundreds of unarmed students? I knew people like you existed, I just never had the opportunity to witness someone actually do it, and I was curious how it's done.
You roll 20 additional days into it as a buffer, and count injuries as equivalent to murders, and let them happen anywhere.
It can't be the "Tiananmen Square Massacre" for you because then couldn't draw in PLA members who had heart attacks and died elsewhere that day because they weren't at the square. You need to create a context where they're all the same thing and the geography of place really damages the ability to do that.
You just dilute a massacre to make it not a massacre by expanding the time and places. Super interesting. It's a distinctly different approach to propegands than you'd typically see in the west or Russia.
You're making a lot of false assumptions here that lead me to believe that this is not actually, as you claim, your first time encountering this viewpoint, and your intention isn't to learn or honestly engage but to discredit and spread your own dishonest talking points.
Oh, no, I'm absolutely not trying to engage as if this person is holding the objective truth because they aren't. I'm not either. They just have had a different brainwashing than most so I'm interested in the flavour. I'm interested in hearing their views, fact checking them, and using that to reverse engineer the intiontions of those who are feeding them a moral rationalization.
"What we actually are hoping for is bloodshed, the moment when the government is ready to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the Square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eyes" - Chai Ling
But they didn't get it, so they had to exaggerate armed skirmishes into "they machinegunned sitting student protestors"
It can’t be the “Tiananmen Square Massacre” for you because then couldn’t draw in PLA members who had heart attacks and died elsewhere that day because they weren’t at the square.
You can literally find photos of protestors posing with burnt and mutilated bodies of PLA soldiers
The collapse of Western society is being witnessed by hearing anecdotes on forums until you’re the one in the anecdote.
The icing on this shit cake is that people will refuse to believe that anecdotes are true and even the most progressive people will make jokes about it publicly as evidenced by .worlders
I don't know about the UK; but over here it's MUCH easier to get a car loan than a mortgage or rental lease
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