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submitted 6 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Engineers said to be supporting missile launches and reports of North Koreans killed near Donetsk

North Korean military engineers have been deployed to help Russia target Ukraine with ballistic missiles, and North Koreans operating in occupied areas of Ukraine have already been killed, senior officials in Kyiv and Seoul said.

There are dozens of North Koreans behind Russian lines, in teams that "support launcher systems for KN-23 missiles", a source in Ukraine told the Guardian.

Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader, last year travelled to Russia for a summit with Vladimir Putin where the two men bolstered their deepening ties with a secret arms deal.

Pyongyang's ammunition shipments were vital in allowing Russian forces to advance in a grinding war of attrition in eastern Ukraine this summer. But it appears increasingly clear that the agreement went beyond supplying materiel.

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[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 76 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

We've had Russians, North Koreans, and Indians fighting in Ukraine with Chinese supplied weapons against Ukrainians armed with American, Polish, German, British, and other European weapons in a war that's been going on for nearly two years.

Can we call it a World War yet?

Or are we just going to refuse to use the word until nukes are dropped?

We can also throw in the Middle Eastern theater for good measure too if that's not enough.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 66 points 6 months ago

Seems to me that it's just part of the proxy war that the world powers have been fighting pretty much constantly in an Oceania/Eurasia/Eastasia kind of way since 1945.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 5 points 6 months ago

Orwellian comparison hits here

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 50 points 6 months ago

I’d say the situation is a lot closer to the Spanish Civil War, tbh. A lot of countries sent expeditionary forces and volunteers to assist one side or the other, including Russia and Nazi Germany (who kinda used the conflict as a proving ground for the concept of combined arms doctrine we know as “blitzkrieg”).

[-] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 14 points 6 months ago

The comparison certainly makes sense. Awesome, that means we’re just a few years shy of a world war.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 months ago

Yeah but just think 40 years later we’re gonna get some sick movies and video games

[-] FundMECFSResearch 8 points 6 months ago

If you make it through the likely multiple genocides and conscriptions.

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 6 points 6 months ago

360 noscoping russians as a wallrunning Ukrainian super soldier.

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[-] illi@lemm.ee 28 points 6 months ago

Not until there are NATO boots on the ground, or NATO recognizes it is at war. Russia is already saying it is, NATO just didn't get the memo yet I guess.

You are right in saying Russia kinda made it a world war. I guess with just the one front it just doesn't feel like it.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It could be pretty easily argued that Gaza/Lebanon is another front. Iran/Russia/China axis seems to be solidifying to an extent, imo.

Israel did just bomb a Russian airbase in Syria, after all.

Edit: guess I didn’t say “Israel is bad” enough in my comment? Seriously, I didn’t even make any value judgments in this comment, y’all are too touchy.

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[-] Draces@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

We didn't call the cold war a world war and that wasn't in a single country

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[-] FundMECFSResearch 35 points 6 months ago

Yet it is absolutely imperative french troops stray far away 🤡

[-] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 months ago

I find it interesting that the loaned DPRK are operating ballistic missile platforms. Makes me wonder if part of the intention is to skill up some of the army units with combat launching exp, which is not the happiest thought, since NK has a continental US capable truck-launched ICBM since 2017.

Of course the plan doesn’t work if they all get killed by Ukrainian drone attacks, but NK has never been too precious about their rank and file anyway.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

These are comparatively safer positions.

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[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

It’s going to be hilarious when Russia N. Korea and china have to pull there entire economy together to fight this one little nation and Ukraine ends up marching on every single capital.

[-] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That sounds like an epic session of Civ V.

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago

Hilarious? It would be literally fantastic.

[-] Shark_Ra_Thanos@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago
[-] McDropout@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Ukraine gets help from its allies: I sleep

Russia gets help from its allies: 😡😡

The cognitive dissonance of Lemmy users.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 65 points 6 months ago

This you? Immediate block. Shame on you for supporting a mass murdering, civilian butchering, raping, children bombing, war regime.

It’s okay to be proud of Russian culture and celebrate heritage. It’s not okay to support a war of conquests where children are stolen and civilians are slaughtered.

[-] McDropout@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Someone who has a different opinion that mine! Immediately blocked!

My echo chamber is almost… ready!! 🤗

[-] tiefling 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Calling it a "different opinion" is an attempt to shut down any criticism of your disgusting lack of humanity. It's like when Republicans call being a racist, xenophobic piece of shit a "different opinion".

Don't bother replying, I'm not making this comment to try to convince you. I'm saying this to point out the tactic to anyone else who may be reading this.

[-] McDropout@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You can see me criticizing Russia in the same comment thread; I believe that Russia is committing war crimes that I do not support but Ukraine is siding with states which are committing whatever Russia is committing with impunity

there goes my support for Ukraine

The commenter I replied to didn‘t even have a conversation with me.

Also both republicans and democrats are racist, xenophobic, sexist, genocidal maniacs. Don‘t compare me to North Americans.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 15 points 6 months ago

That is idiotic lmfao.

Regardless of anything. Ukraine was invaded and is the smaller state being targeted by a much bigger state in population, economy, everything. Ukraine has every right to accept any help it can get.

But you're gonna say you don't support Ukraine because they'll accept aid against a supposedly stronger opponent?

You are fake and also a homosapien.

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[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 36 points 6 months ago

I don't think that's happening anywhere. People are laughing at the desperation of Russia they're getting help from basically a pariah state

[-] kshade@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

People are laughing at the desperation of Russia they’re getting help from basically a pariah state

Putin was seriously looking at the state of North Korea and thought "yeah, I can do that, I want that".

[-] McDropout@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Russia is still going strong 2 years into the war… after all these western interventions that couldn’t prevent a war.

Sanctions mean nothing. Weapons mean nothing.

Victory to Russia 🇷🇺

[-] hungryphrog 27 points 6 months ago

fuck off you imperialist dipshit

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 months ago

Russia doesnt exist anymore. Its East Ukraine.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 8 points 6 months ago

I think Lemmygrad might be a better place for you to fuck off to.

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Username checks out

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 6 points 6 months ago

Put your helmet back on buckaroo

[-] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

Russia is still going strong 2 years into the war

You mean the special military operation that was intended to last 3 days to a week at one point?

[-] Chef_Boyardee@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

It posts like this that motivate me to read all of the comments on the hexbear posts. Straight entertainment

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

You're... Aware that Russia invaded Ukraine, right? And all of this bloodshed, all of these senselessly sacrificed lives, could've been avoided if Russia just DIDN'T invade Ukraine?

[-] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

I don't see that happening, but people aren't going to be supporting Russia (or shouldn't) since they're the enemy in all this

[-] McDropout@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

The enemy according to who?

The western allies, western international law, UN, etc has showed us all last year that words like enemy, terrorist, ally is all relative.

Israel occupies Palestine since 1948, and the western allies support it ever since, till this very day. And they also support a genocide in Gaza, Gaza being under siege, collective punishment, arming genocidal terrorists (IDF), arming illegal settlers in the West Bank.

These same allies are supporting Ukraine. Now let‘s deduct who‘s the enemy in this formula.

[-] TAYRN@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

Oh, I got this. The "enemy" is the one who invaded the sovereign nation of Ukraine without provocation. Good job finding an entirely new topic to talk about. Distract. Good tactic.

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[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago

Yea that’s how invasions work.

[-] AAA@feddit.org 12 points 6 months ago

Ukraine:

Russia: invades Ukraine, committing war crimes on a daily basis.

I don't think you're eligible to judge anyone's cognitive abilities.

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