Just Bibi casually threatening a second genocide, nothing to see here /s
Biden: "Israel has every right to extend its borders as biblically dictated..."
"Free yourself from Hezbollah so that it's easier for us to roll in and take everything" is what he's actually saying.
They've already started advertising for new homes for Israeli's to purchase in Lebanon.
If by "they" you mean Israel, no they aren't.
That ad is fake. It's propaganda from a small, extremist organization that advocates for Israeli settlement of southern Lebanon. They've also sent eviction notices to residents of Labanon via balloons and drones.
The ad was made by an Israeli settler organization, but that doesn't make it fake. The Israeli government pretends to have nothing to do with these things then defends them; that's how their settlements have always work. In the case of an occupation, I don't see any difference between South Lebanon and the West Bank, in which case this ad is very much real.
It's fake because it's not an ad.
It's propaganda designed to look like an ad. The group that made it does not sell or develop property. It is impossible to buy the "advertised" property because it doesn't exist and they are not selling property.
The threat from the group is real. Their intention is to legitimize the idea of occupying and settling southern Lebanon. They themselves say that they are not selling property but promoting a future where it's possible for Israelis to buy/sell property in southern Lebanon.
Oh, I see now. Yeah that makes sense.
If by “they” you mean Israel, no they aren’t.
If they meant "far right citizens of Israel that agree with their government's genocide" then, yeah, they are.
Saying that group has nothing to do with Bibi seems an awful lot like saying trump had nothing to do with 1/6.
Can you help me understand how its different?
Sure. First, is that an advertisement for property? No, it isn't. The statement that it's advertising property is false. It's political propaganda designed to look like an advertisement.
The state of Israel and political groups within that state are different entities. When the Proud Boys release some vile statement, I'm sure someone, somewhere is like "OMG look what the US is doing!" But the Proud Boys and the US state are different entities, even if the Proud Boys reside within the US state. Even if there are US officials whose values align closely with those chuds.
The comment I replied to was wrong about both who was speaking and what they were saying.
Is there some way that 'The state of Israel is advertising property for sale in Lebanon' is a true statement?
Oh wow...
I really didn't think you'd just outright say you think trump is innocent in regards to his supporters attempting a coup
But that still doesn't change that you made one assumption about what "they" meant. And ignored the other possibilities.
Yeah, I'm not buying that for a second. Just because there's no clear link between these settler groups and the Israeli government doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This is what Israel does. Displaces a population through force and violence and then settles the land for their own people.
No. There's a very clear link...
Here's the person in charge of Israeli police:
Ben-Gvir has been convicted eight times for offenses that include racism and supporting a terrorist organization. As a teen, his views were so extreme that the army banned him from compulsory military service.
Ben-Gvir gained notoriety in his youth as a follower of the late racist rabbi Meir Kahane. He first became a national figure when Ben-Gvir famously broke a hood ornament off then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin’s car in 1995.
“We got to his car, and we’ll get to him too,” he said, just weeks before Rabin was assassinated by a Jewish extremist opposed to his peace efforts with the Palestinians.
Two years later, Ben-Gvir took responsibility for orchestrating a campaign of protests, including death threats, that forced Irish singer Sinead O’Connor to cancel a concert for peace in Jerusalem.
When you put a racist terrorist in charge of National Security. It's pretty impossible to seperate the administration from racist terrorists...
What exactly aren't you buying?
It is literally not an advertisement for property. No one is advertising property for sale. Your speculation about the relationship between two groups not selling property seems pretty pointless in this case.
There are plenty things to be angry at Israel about. You shouldn't waste your time being angry about imaginary things.
I'm not buying the fact that Israel has no plans to settle Lebanon once they manage to displace enough people. We've seen it done many times to the Palestinians over the past 70+ years. There's no reason for anyone to believe they don't want to do the same here. They literally tried doing that in the 90s with the south of Lebanon, and Hezbolllah harassed them so much that they were forced to leave the area and give it back to Lebanon.
What's that got to do with me? I wasn't talking about whether Israel has plans to occupy or settle Lebanon. I was commenting on whether they are advertising property for sale, which they are not.
What do you mean what's that got to do with you? I never talked about you in the first place?
Are the Israeli settlers in the West Bank also just a "small, extremist organization" in your mind?
"Look what you're making me do".
Netanyahu is the closest thing we’ve had to Hitler in quite a while.
Watch out, a French humorist has lost his job for making that comparison
In general I’m not a fan of hitler or nazi comparisons. I understand how someone could take offense at the use of the phrase “grammar nazi” for example.
But the rhetoric and the genocide we have heard from Netanyahu and his cabinet is atrocious, dehumanizing propaganda against not only the Palestinians, but also anyone who believes that all humans should have access to even the most basic human needs.
And as time goes on, Netanyahu is only proving what a sick racist bastard he really is.
He will be remembered for being a shitty human being. And he is seriously hurting the reputation of Israel on the world stage and endangering the lives of actual Israeli citizens and Jewish people all over the world.
He is Hitler.
We have first genocide, yes, but what about second genocide?
It's looking like the Oprah meme. "You get a genocide, and you get a genocide, and you get a genocide"
I simply can not comprehend how any politicians defend Israel and don't have their reputation in tatters.
What language was the announcement in?
Israel is very consistent in using the language for televised statements in the language of the intended audience.
When Israel states something in English, the intended audience is generally the US, not whom they are addressing.
It's the exact same playbook as in Palestine.
No doubt there will soon be Israeli "settlers" in Lebanese territory surrounded by enormous areas stolen from the locals "for security".
They always claim Hezbollah is terrorist, but surely the IDF have a larger civilian kill count and a larger percentage of civilians killed.
Israel feeling pretty confident there is zero consequences to their actions now.
This is what I don't get... Hezbollah has seats in Lebanon's parliament. How is it any different than Likud? Aside from the whole, "not being actively genocidal" thing. Should we compare civilian casualties between the two groups?
Why are we only cool with democracy (and "spreading" it) when they vote for the people we like?
Edit: well, I stand corrected. Here is an article today showing Hezbollah committing literal war crimes today... Oh no wait. Hold on a second, that was actually the IDF:
So at what point do they become "terrorists"? Or are we just having a pointless semantic argument at this point?
Small Hitler can't get enough.
Netanyahu: "Here I go, killing again!" If I was the US president would simply give Netanyahu the Osama Bin Laden treatment. Have some special ops dump his body in the ocean, send a message to the next Israeli PM there are consequences.
Terrorism is when ones tries to achieve political objectives by putting pressure on a population through attacks on non-military targets.
What Israel is saying here is like Bin Laden hitting the Twin Towers to "pressure their political opponents".
why is this man in government and not standing trial in front of the international criminal court
Points gun at someone's head."Don't make me kill you! If I do it'll be your own fault!"
Israeli terroristic threats levied to innocent civilians. Must be a wednesday.
This motherfucker's threats sound like they came from fictional villains with bad writers, and yet, American politicians can hear him say this and still believe it's totally normal and good to continue funding Israel's unhinged war crimes and genocide.
I can't support this. It's like America's little putin.
A yes, the classic "start a war with the people we don't like or we will start the war for you". Truly sympathetic shit.
That's a tad bit difficult since Hezbollah military rivals that of the Lebanese government. This is pretty much an impossible request and him saying that he's going to cause Lebanon "destruction and suffering"
Warmongering Israel, fun times.
So effing sick... 😥
The only way this possibility ends in peace is an airstrike resulting in Netanyahu's death, which is rather unlikely
That's sort of his plan, to raze it to the ground. What Netanyahu doesn't realize is that all the war money he's burning through is also Israel's defense money, and that it will be some of the last it will ever get even if Trump wins. Biden is getting fed up, and Trump isn't a fan of Israel, he's a fan of money and Russia.
Don't listen to this manipulative pro-Trump garbage. Trump loves Israel.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/harris-trump-iran-israel-gaza-positions/
As president, Trump controversially moved the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and ended decades of U.S. opposition to Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank. (The Biden administration reversed the settlement decision.)
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