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submitted 3 weeks ago by breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca to c/world@lemmy.world

Benjamin Netanyahu has warned Lebanese people that they could face “destruction and suffering” like the Palestinians in Gaza if they don’t “free” the country from Hezbollah.

“You have an opportunity to save Lebanon before it falls into the abyss of a long war that will lead to destruction and suffering like we see in Gaza,” the Israeli prime minister said in a video address directed to the people of Lebanon.

"I say to you, the people of Lebanon: Free your country from Hezbollah so that this war can end."

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

If by “they” you mean Israel, no they aren’t.

If they meant "far right citizens of Israel that agree with their government's genocide" then, yeah, they are.

Saying that group has nothing to do with Bibi seems an awful lot like saying trump had nothing to do with 1/6.

Can you help me understand how its different?

[-] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago

Sure. First, is that an advertisement for property? No, it isn't. The statement that it's advertising property is false. It's political propaganda designed to look like an advertisement.

The state of Israel and political groups within that state are different entities. When the Proud Boys release some vile statement, I'm sure someone, somewhere is like "OMG look what the US is doing!" But the Proud Boys and the US state are different entities, even if the Proud Boys reside within the US state. Even if there are US officials whose values align closely with those chuds.

The comment I replied to was wrong about both who was speaking and what they were saying.

Is there some way that 'The state of Israel is advertising property for sale in Lebanon' is a true statement?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Oh wow...

I really didn't think you'd just outright say you think trump is innocent in regards to his supporters attempting a coup

But that still doesn't change that you made one assumption about what "they" meant. And ignored the other possibilities.

I really didn’t think you’d just outright say you think trump is innocent in regards to his supporters attempting a coup

I don't see that. Perhaps the edit status didn't federate but the earlier commenter's comment says nothing about that guy. Rather the commenter was just saying that Jan 6 was not officially encouraged by the US gov't or someone acting in his or her official capacity. Which may not be true (I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the SC has given that guy immunity for everything on Jan 6 on account of it somehow being part of his "official duties" which means the above would have to be wrong.)

But we can all agree that this guy definitely was associated with 1/6 in is personal capacity as a private person - and the same would be true of "“far right citizens of Israel that agree with their government" and perhaps of Bibi in his personal capacity.

For what it's worth, It's a fake, not a real ad, and not officially sponsored by the government of Israel.

But it's disturbing precisely because it's so easy to believe that this was real.

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