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[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 72 points 2 years ago

i'm over half, and expecting yet another rent increase soon.

[-] basmatii@lemm.ee 52 points 2 years ago

Who are the half that make the 7 figures required to not spend half your income on housing?

Did they just fully make up have the surveyed population?

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago

$1400/mo, the rough figure from the article, is 30% of $56k/yr. If you made $1m, 30% of that would give you $25,000/mo. How do you figure?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Median household is apparently 80k now. 30 percent of that monthly is 2,000.

In my city 2,000 will rent you an infested place with water damage from the flood a year ago. But if the city comes around you have to pretend not to live there or else they'll kick you out.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I wonder if it's net or gross.

Besides, it's not seven figures, just mid-six figures necessary for that.

[-] expr@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago

The typical "30% on income" advice is based on gross, not net. Which is about 93,000 a year for the median mortgage payment right now.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

You don't need remotely close to that income level. 200k household income will get you a nice home at a reasonable price.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah just 2.5 times the median household income, no problem. Hey while we're here can I have a million dollar loan?

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Never said it was inexpensive. It's just not nearly as expensive as you all make it seem. 15% of the country does hit this number and 25% are close.

Y'all out pretending nobody is buying houses.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

No no we know people are buying houses. It's just hard to compete when that person is Black Rock and they bought an entire development before it even hit the market.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Corporate owners own less than 4% of single family homes.

It's not okay and that does put pressure on the market. We should strive to minimize that.

It's not the hellscape you want it to be. $2500/mo still buys you a 2400sq ft home in a nice neighborhood in moderate CoL areas. Again that price is out of reach for many, but home ownership rates for Gen Z is higher than millennials when adjusted for age. Most of America own their homes.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Well that's a flat out lie. CoreLogic straight up tells anyone willing to read that investors own 20-30 percent of housing in every state. And they're 30 percent of the purchasing for houses on the market every month.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm going to go with the actual statistics here. Not this blog post.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, sure. Actual data makes me a clown. You're entitled to your opinion

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
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[-] Jazsta@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Maybe roommates?

[-] ElectricAirship@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

I lived in a place that cost 800$ a month for a room in the bay area and I was taking home more than 60% of my income working full time.

It's doable, and it doesn't mean only rich people aren't rent burdened...

[-] expr@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

Just to point out, with the median mortgage at $2349 a month, it's more like you need a household income of $93,000 a year (probably closer to $100k with utilities and other expenses) for your housing costs to equal 30% of your income. That is steep for a lot of people, but still much more attainable than 7 figures. A quick Google says that makes up around 37% of US households as of 2022. Still doesn't quite add up to their figures, admittedly, unless "nearly half" is doing a lot of work in that sentence.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

I'm wondering if the people in this thread who are saying they pay less than 30% of their income on rent as if it's some sort of trick or achievement actually understand percentages since they don't seem to understand that the "nearly half" part of the headline puts them in the majority...

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Same people that refuse a pay raise because they don’t understand the core concept of tax tables.

[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

I don't know anyone spending less than half of their income on housing.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

they make your walls so thin so you can hear your landlord masturbating to this

[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

I actually thought 30% housing was the norm for the past 10 years?

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

The goal but never the reality.

[-] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 years ago

Ideally rent should be 1/4th or less of your budget

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago
[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 17 points 2 years ago

We should build and fund more public housing.

Unfortunately, a large chunk of the country doesn't believe the government can or should do anything, so I guess that's a difficult pitch to make.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

This is the solution. Unfortunately in the United States when most people think of government housing you think of run down slums.

We need to follow the examples of Austria's social housing. https://youtu.be/41VJudBdYXY

[-] Maeve@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

I really liked this, especially since quality, quality of life including ample green space is incorporated. Thank you for sharing.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I really wish we'd get that here but.. it's the US. Profit over people.

[-] Maeve@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

Yes; I'm wondering if political/natural disaster might accidentally converge to increase the odds?

[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I wish. I'm at a little below half lately.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago
[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And that is only going to go up. In my area at least, the price of rent has gone up ~15% per year for the last 5 years. In 5 more years the apartment I was renting will cost more per year than my house payment.

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I know that rent has gone up, but you definitely can hack it. I never spent more than 30% of my take home pay on rent. I managed that by looking at places that fit my budget or living with roommates. Pretty much you won’t have very good luck if you’re a single person trying to rent your own place though. In terms of finding places within budget, I always avoided any type of new buildings built in the last five to ten years or so. The cost of those is usually highest. They’ll promise flashy amenities, but it’s usually not worth it. Also, avoid corporate landlords. If you can, find a mom and pop landlord that’s been in business for awhile. They usually have better deals and don’t go up on rent every year provided you’re a good tenant that pays on time and doesn’t cause any stresses for them. You’ll have the best luck with this if you stick to places where people list their own properties like Craigslist, Facebook marketplace, etc. Avoid spots that corporate landlords use like apartments.com.

Edit: Or, don’t. Ignore this advice and pay through the nose. You’ll be renting forever.

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