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Who are the half that make the 7 figures required to not spend half your income on housing?
Did they just fully make up have the surveyed population?
$1400/mo, the rough figure from the article, is 30% of $56k/yr. If you made $1m, 30% of that would give you $25,000/mo. How do you figure?
Median household is apparently 80k now. 30 percent of that monthly is 2,000.
In my city 2,000 will rent you an infested place with water damage from the flood a year ago. But if the city comes around you have to pretend not to live there or else they'll kick you out.
Don’t forget that household income is everyone in the house. So if you are all poor college kids with part time jobs making 15-20k a year your household income will still be close to or at the median, even though each of you are individually really poor
That's not nearly the normal though. Dual income households are the norm by far.
Sure but any part time jobs the kids have also count towards median household income I assume
That's like a 2 year period in an 18 year living situation.
Kids live at home a lot longer now 😂 way more than two years haha
You'd need census data to back that up.
Edit to add, you'd need to see which definition the government is using because household has a census definition and an IRS definition.
I wonder if it's net or gross.
Besides, it's not seven figures, just mid-six figures necessary for that.
The typical "30% on income" advice is based on gross, not net. Which is about 93,000 a year for the median mortgage payment right now.
Maybe roommates?
You don't need remotely close to that income level. 200k household income will get you a nice home at a reasonable price.
Oh yeah just 2.5 times the median household income, no problem. Hey while we're here can I have a million dollar loan?
Never said it was inexpensive. It's just not nearly as expensive as you all make it seem. 15% of the country does hit this number and 25% are close.
Y'all out pretending nobody is buying houses.
No no we know people are buying houses. It's just hard to compete when that person is Black Rock and they bought an entire development before it even hit the market.
Corporate owners own less than 4% of single family homes.
It's not okay and that does put pressure on the market. We should strive to minimize that.
It's not the hellscape you want it to be. $2500/mo still buys you a 2400sq ft home in a nice neighborhood in moderate CoL areas. Again that price is out of reach for many, but home ownership rates for Gen Z is higher than millennials when adjusted for age. Most of America own their homes.
It really doesn't mean anything to say what a home might cost in a certain area, without specifying that area. People can't just move across the country, because they don't have jobs. And if you're putting them in a situation where they would have to commute an hour and a half each way, that has its own set of issues.
The numbers that you include look nice, but I've seen a lot of other numbers that don't look nice. Obviously this all depends where you live, how much money you have, and what kind of place you want to buy.
And yet the home ownership rates increase.
Again, it's far from perfect. Not the hellscape described. Again, MOST (Almost 70%), will own their homes when they retire.
Well that's a flat out lie. CoreLogic straight up tells anyone willing to read that investors own 20-30 percent of housing in every state. And they're 30 percent of the purchasing for houses on the market every month.
This shit is easy to find.
https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2024/2/21-going-after-corporate-homebuyers-good-politics-ineffective-policy#:~:text=As%20of%20June%202022%2C%20the,rental%20properties%20in%20the%20US.
I'm going to go with the actual statistics here. Not this blog post.
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Yeah, sure. Actual data makes me a clown. You're entitled to your opinion
Shuffles around looking for data
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I lived in a place that cost 800$ a month for a room in the bay area and I was taking home more than 60% of my income working full time.
It's doable, and it doesn't mean only rich people aren't rent burdened...
Just to point out, with the median mortgage at $2349 a month, it's more like you need a household income of $93,000 a year (probably closer to $100k with utilities and other expenses) for your housing costs to equal 30% of your income. That is steep for a lot of people, but still much more attainable than 7 figures. A quick Google says that makes up around 37% of US households as of 2022. Still doesn't quite add up to their figures, admittedly, unless "nearly half" is doing a lot of work in that sentence.