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As of Sept 19th, we are at 50 school shootings! (slrpnk.net)
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There have been at least 50 school shootings in the United States so far this year, as of September 19. Thirteen were on college campuses, and 37 were on K-12 school grounds. The incidents left 24 people dead and at least 66 other victims injured, according to CNN’s analysis of events reported by the Gun Violence Archive, Education Week and Everytown for Gun Safety.

https://www.cnn.com/us/school-shootings-fast-facts-dg/index.html

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 75 points 2 months ago

I believe the kids say "based".

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[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago

I know the answer to all this. we just need more fetuses with guns.

[-] Infinite@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 months ago

Or only allow abortions to be post-natal and via firearm?

Damn. That was too dark. I'm gonna go hug my dog now.

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 8 points 2 months ago

Pls post a pic of your dog.

[-] Infinite@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 6 points 2 months ago

Awwww, what a cutie. 🥺 13/10

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Fucking op delivered, God damn.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

That is one happy dog!

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[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The all-new Glock Ba-B-Gonne! When you have a baby you want gone, Ba-B-Gonne!

Apply directly to the baby. Apply directly to the baby.

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

They're going to scapegoat people with mental illness and start taking their rights away more and more. Then they'll start using that to target people they don't like. Take certain prescriptions? Now you're on the "dangerous person's list" now "dangerous people" can't hold certain jobs or public office. Been put on a "mental health" hold by the police ever? Same thing. Then the police can just use their "discretion" to put anyone they don't like on a mental health hold. LGBT? That means you're "mentally unhealthy" don't believe in God? Believe it or not "mental health problems" not Republican? Only a psycho believes in dirty socialism. Brown skin? (Insert racist stuff about inferior brain power) Now, of course we can't allow the "mentally unhealthy people" to procreate! So we'll have to sterilize them. Of course they can't be trusted, so we'll need to supervise them at all times! Work is good for mental health so we can give them "jobs" at the "mental health" camps!

[-] jzzvid 8 points 2 months ago

Going to? The US has been doing that since the day it gained its independence.

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[-] saroh@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

A bit like the green card lottery, school shootings are a lottery for "post natal abortions"©

Fun part: every parent gets to play.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Using the GVA as a source, is like expecting trump not to lie.

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent

[-] Darorad@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't see the gva anywhere in that article and the numbers in the CNN article are pretty close to the numbers NPR was able to verify

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's literally in the first paragraph:

There have been at least 50 school shootings in the United States so far this year, as of September 19. Thirteen were on college campuses, and 37 were on K-12 school grounds. The incidents left 24 people dead and at least 66 other victims injured, according to CNN’s analysis of events reported by the Gun Violence Archive, Education Week and Everytown for Gun Safety.

And if you read the article from NPR and look at the data from GVA, you will see a pattern of school shootings that aren't school shootings, but are counted as such because they happened near a school or some other reason.

An example is a pellet gun being used to shoot out the window on a school bus on the weekend...do you think that should be counted as a school shooting? I hope you don't.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What source should be used?

And was there more than one school shooting this year? Because that's one more than almost every other Western country.

I'm not sure why you're trying to downplay this problem.

Edit: Don't bother reading below for a source. They don't give one. They're just here to troll.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/school-shootings?page=1

Have a go through there. You're literally putting republican logic to your statement..."who cares if it's false, as long as there is a bit of truth somewhere"...

Facts matter when discussing these topics, because they are what's used to create/shape laws. If laws are built upon lies, like the patriot act, then the law was not created with the right goals in mind.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You’re literally putting republican logic to your statement…“who cares if it’s false, as long as there is a bit of truth somewhere”…

That is a disgusting lie. I said nothing of the sort.

I'm literally doing the opposite of that since I asked you what source should be used.

Then I asked you if there was more than one.

I didn't say anything even remotely like, "who cares if it’s false, as long as there is a bit of truth somewhere."

You should be ashamed of yourself with trolling this shitty.

I should have realized you'd lie about what I said in direct response to the thing I said yet again since this is the third or fourth time you've done it.

Oh, and now it's time for you to tell the lie that I want to ban guns. You've done that one before.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

That is a disgusting lie. I said nothing of the sort.

You did. You're downplaying the fact that the GVA uses junk data to drive an agenda.

I'm literally doing the opposite of that since I asked you what source should be used.

By using the next line of:

Then I asked you if there was more than one.

Which implies that. Who cares as if there is more than one it's the same problem. Which is not the case at all, if we had thousands of kids being killed constantly in school, that's a totally different issue than if we had one outlier shooting every year.

I didn't say anything even remotely like, "who cares if it’s false, as long as there is a bit of truth somewhere."

You pretty much did. You are equally giving weight to false numbers.

You should be ashamed of yourself with trolling this shitty.

You clearly don't understand trolling, at this point you should know I'm not a troll.

I should have realized you'd lie about what I said in direct response to the thing I said yet again since this is the third or fourth time you've done it.

Sure thing, totally... you're all about the truth and you really are for legislation that'll actually fix the problem, not emotionally driven legislation, because even 1 school shooting is the same as 50..

Oh, and now it's time for you to tell the lie that I want to ban guns. You've done that one before.

The end goal is always, a ban from the anti2a crowd. Making something so damn impossible to obtain, is a defacto ban. Just remember that those who put the rules in place, will make sure minorities, LGBTQ+, and women will be the main ones unable to obtain firearms.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Stopped reading at your first line, which was another lie. I asked you which source should be used. That's all I did. I just asked a fucking question. You didn't even answer it.

This conversation is over. You are just a troll.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

You asked a loaded question, but if you want to use a source, use the FBI data.

And was there more than one school shooting this year? Because that's one more than almost every other Western country.

This is your own question, which you answered by saying it's one more than almost every other Western country. So no you weren't asking a question, you were trying to make a statement.

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[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

~~Sorry bud, I do usually agree with you, but I think you might be in the wrong on this one. Why don't you find the NPR article convincing that maybe these numbers ~~are~~ might be inflated (edit: didn't mean to use a declarative statement there)? Are you contending that NPR is misrepresenting the numbers and/or trying to push an agenda? They don't really have a track record of either as far as I'm aware.~~

edit 2: leaving this because it's still true:

Looking at the actual scope of an issue isn't downplaying it. Nor is checking if the reporting is accurate. And accurate reporting (of data, I mean, as opposed to news) is extremely important when passing laws, so it is something to care about.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

FFS! I never said the numbers weren't inflated! I asked for a better source! They refused to give one.

[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

edit: clarified my misunderstanding

~~If you want a better source, that's fine; I don't have one, I'm not that other guy and I'm not trying to prove anything myself. I just want to know what's wrong with NPR as a source, or what's wrong with that particular article.~~

~~I think you might be taking issue with the fact that~~ this guy wants to say the Gun Violence Archive counts non-shooting incidents as shootings? He's wrong, they don't; that GVA link points to "school incidents", where even finding a gun is counted. CNN's methodology for counting seems reasonable.

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[-] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They've already been trounced for pulling up a 6 year old article using 8 year old data.

Then they doggedly refused to do the math for recent years that there's literally a school shooting every week in the US.

And that doesn't even touch mass shootings in general.

The really sad part is they do eventually make a point that a lot of the problem is mental health and America's obsession with gun violence. But simply refusing to even admit to the actual frequency of the shootings or that the availability of guns is part of the issue means they'll continue to be ignored.

[-] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Thank you for fighting the good fight

[-] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

What if I want to actively participate?

[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago

Go for kindergarten, surely they’re easier targets.

[-] Breezy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Idk i think a gaggle of abortioners at a clinic would be even easier targets. Plus most of them are gonna be worth 2 points.

[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago

True. You could hit a killtacular in no time.

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[-] Juigi@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

Many people in the comments trying to downplay the amount, america is truly fucked

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

Only 50? IIRC that's a marked improvement from recent previous years.

[-] daellat@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Perhaps people conflate mass shootings with school shootings

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Recent years have been wildly exaggerated. This is a frighteningly real number.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

they don't care about kids. they don't care about life. they care about controlling women. I first heard George Carlin say "pro-life is just anti-woman" when i was a kid, and didn't really understand very well. but now it's so clear.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Wait until they hear about the dozens of schools bombed in palestine as part of usa sponsored genocide.

Violence is deeply instilled and normalized in the history, culture and especially the state of our genocidal society.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Let me make two notes:

A "school shooting" is any time a gun goes off on any school grounds. You can go to the elementary soccer field and put one in the ground at midnight, "school shooting". Mass shootings are not what you picture in your mind when that word comes up.

https://imgur.com/2prD6rU

The Gun Violence Archive and Everytown for Gun Safety are two of the most biased sources related to guns.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

hahaha this guy's like "if you just shoot and injure 4 people but can't definitively kill them, is that even a shooting?"

good note on the school thing though. I'm totally going to a parent who lost their child playing soccer in school and telling them "well they weren't inside the classroom; you didn't expect them to be safe anywhere in school, didya?"

[-] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Anybody else misread that exclamation point as excited at first? A little horrifying, NGL.

[-] Brutticus@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

that honestly seems like on the low side

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

The front side is a little lower, but still high enough to kill children.

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