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[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 83 points 3 months ago

Not only does he give money. He votes.
Remember that when you decide to skip an election.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If the situation is the one described in the picture, not voting, not paying taxes and not playing the government game sounds like a fair decision.

Edit: didn't noticed the flag, i thought this was a meme describing society in general

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago

The funniest thing about this is Trump won't stop grifting them. Every month is something new. Trump trading cards. Trump shoes. Trump NFTs. Like the moment Harris tries to sale me shoes, I'm out. But these people can't afford medical care because their Republican state government cut their benefits, so now they are going to send money to a guy who is selling NFTs... Enough said.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

But, but... That $100K watch is awesome!

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

The important thing is that he hates brown people just as much as they do.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago

naw. Fuedal is the tax guy shows up and demands payment. this is something else.

Maybe it's a Fin-dom kink?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I dunno, I feel like the hierarchical nature of feudalism is more core than tribute extraction. The lord needs the support of his loyal vassals, while the loyal vassals only need their lord insofar as they crave a ruler over themselves - or over their despised peers, for which they are willing to sacrifice money and dignity, and sometimes even their lives.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

It would be awfully hard for a vassal landholder to get the kind of materials that they can’t produce on their own. Iron, tin, copper, lead; depending on the area, lumber, as well.

There was also the military presence keeping the brigandry in check (including from other feudal lords.)

Vassals also exchanged military service for land. (And the serfs that came with it!)

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

It would be awfully hard for a vassal landholder to get the kind of materials that they can’t produce on their own. Iron, tin, copper, lead; depending on the area, lumber, as well.

Yet most fiefs during the height of feudalism were autarkic, and engaged in minimal trade, much less redistribution from their overlord.

There was also the military presence keeping the brigandry in check (including from other feudal lords.)

Considering how rampant brigandry was, dunno how valid that is. As for other feudal lords, those are, of course, the peers they despise.

Vassals also exchanged military service for land. (And the serfs that came with it!)

Land could not simply be revoked in most feudal systems, though, and was more often inherited than granted by the overlord.

None of your points are wrong, necessarily, but I don't think they're major compared to the core pillar of "I trust my overlord to oppress me only a moderate amount, while I don't trust my neighbors not to oppress me a much greater amount, so I would like it very much if my overlord would just oppress everyone. I'll lick his boots for it." It becomes especially apparent in Bastard Feudalism of England and in the later feudal system of Japan in which land revenue, rather than land itself, was what was granted to many warrior-vassals.

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

They still needed land, though. Trump's promise of fossil capitalism might resemble that land, but the whole comparison shakes a bit.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 3 months ago

I agree here. Feudalism to me was a system to maintain order by splitting the kingdom into essentially vassal states that worked relatively independently through a kings central government rules.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago
[-] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

This is something I see a lot with the houses that have Trump signs in my area. They always have a multitude of run down cars, a house that is falling apart, a bunch of stuff in their yard that are not lawn ornaments, and occasionally are fenced in. It's pretty consistent and they always have Trump signs and flags even though voting for Harris would likely help them afford to fix up their cars or house.

[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 25 points 3 months ago

I think the fact that Harris would help everybody is the dealbreaker.

[-] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Oh 100%, they don't want minorities to benefit from it so they'd rather fuck themselves over than allow everyone to have a better standard of living.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Maybe it's a post hoc ergo procter hoc, ie. the run down property, and voting for Trump, are both symptoms of the same thing: That life's been hard, that they are in over their heads, and that nothing seems manageable anymore. (Doesn't it sound an awful lot like undiagnosed neuro divergence?)

Maybe voting for Trump initially was an f you to the intellectual elite that "are keeping them down"? After a while it became part of the identity. And now they may not have much going for them, but they have their savior Trump.

I just noticed that both previous paragraphs starts with "maybe", that wasn't planned, but it doesn't convey my own doubts.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 months ago

But this is necessary because wealthy people keep society away from war and chaos, right?

[-] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Because he is convinced they are on the same team. He is just a temporaryly embarrassed millionaire. He might get his too. Spoiler, he won't.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

nah, he just wants to fuck over darker skinned people. that's why he has the loser flag.

[-] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 3 months ago
[-] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

For scale but they forgot to include the scale

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Not sure tbh

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Just a variation of the Prosperity Gospel. They think they will become rich if they just give this rich guy more money.

[-] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

Pardon my ignorance... Who lives in this house?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago
[-] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago

Oh. Idk that I've ever seen a picture of his modest house. Lol

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

I mean with all those hurricanes the man's probably drowning in insurance premiums alone!

/S

this post was submitted on 30 Sep 2024
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