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I never asked for a credit score. I don't use credit. They have made it very clear breach sfter breach that I don't want them to have my data. How do I remove myself from credit data agencies?

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[-] satanmat@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago

Assuming you live in the USA.

Short answer:: No.

Long answer:: yes but you’re basically living as a criminal, rather— you’d have no bank accounts; no credit cards; and you’d live on cash alone paying no taxes as you’d have to work under the table ( no one messes with the IRS). — or— leave the USA and do the above…

So if you want any kind of “modern life “ put a freeze on all your credit accounts and check them annually

[-] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I'd add one tip- you can go to annual credit report.com and get a free report once a year.

The trick is to request just one per 4 months. First transunion or whoever, then experian, then Equifax, etc. No need to wait a year for a current report.

[-] Roopappy@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 month ago

It's not just a breach you have to worry about. Credit agencies actively monetize your financial data by selling it to anyone who wants it. You didn't give it to them, you didn't authorize it, they collect it and they sell it.

https://www.equifax.com/business/marketing/

[-] mspencer712@programming.dev 30 points 1 month ago

In a general sense, you are discussing a way to control other people and organizations, and to make them stop talking about you. (Communicating and storing your information) This isn’t always possible or practical.

If you pay a merchant with your payment card, that merchant is allowed to know your payment card number. If you call a toll free number, the recipient of your call is allowed to know your phone number.

If they decide to share what they learn about you, and they do so legally, there’s not a whole lot you can do to stop them. I’m not saying this to antagonize or hurt you. I invite you to think differently about what you can control and what is worth worrying about.

[-] POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com 9 points 1 month ago

I'm constantly having identity theft issues since a data breach at work. It changes you. Going to the IRS building constantly. Getting notifications from a credit monitoring sites. It's ridiculous how much time I need to prove I am myself just to pay my own taxes.

[-] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

That really sucks. I can't imagine the stress you must be feeling. I hope things level out for you soon. Hang in there.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 6 points 1 month ago

and they do so legally,

the problem lies right there

[-] gomp@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago

It's quite easy to get rid of all that crap: just come living in the EU

[-] eunieisthebus@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sadly, no. Germany for example has the SCHUFA which is basically the equivalent of the Chinese social score nowadays

[-] int_not_found@feddit.org 23 points 1 month ago

It is not. Saying so, reduces the intrusiveness and carelessness of the american system and absolute insanity of the chinese scoring system.

The SCHUFA is a problematic institution for sure, but saying it's equivalent to the chinese scoring system just shows that you don't know what you are talking about.

[-] padlock4995@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

doesnt the UK still have the big Credit Agencies and do the same thing?

[-] CandleTiger@programming.dev 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I never asked for a credit score.

Unfortunately the credit agencies don’t have much reason to care what you want. There are people with money who asked for everybody to have a credit score

This is the result of having too many "nothing to hide" idiots.

They are all meaning to say "not my problem", but all they're doing is create problems for themselves and their kids. They only notice, as always with privacy, when it's entirely too late.

[-] IllNess@infosec.pub 10 points 1 month ago

I don't think you can. A credit score and a credit report is what companies use to determine if you can get credit from them and at what terms.

If you are in the USA, freeze your credit. So many data breaches happen to millions of people regularly. Be safe.

[-] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

perhaps if you open a company, pay with corporate accounts - but this is more obfuscation than a solution

[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago
[-] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

The best you can do is freeze them, you just have to do each on separate on their respective websites.

[-] KillingAndKindess 1 points 1 month ago

If you have a SSN, you have a number.

Well I totally get this entire system is mismanaged horribly designed from the start not even designed for this from the start, exetera....

Having some kind of standardized way of stating someone else's trustworthiness when it comes to money lending it's something that's just inherit to capitalism as long as you have capitalism simple as that, even if they don't call it a credit score.

[-] neatchee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

It is important to note that while a FICO score is roughly equivalent to "trustworthiness", the three credit agency scores (Equifax, TransUnion, and Experian) are NOT meant to reflect your trustworthiness directly. Rather, they are specifically designed to inform lenders of your profitability for them.

It's an important distinction because having a an outstanding payment history alone won't improve these scores, if you aren't utilizing available credit and maintaining some running balance with lenders.

Basically, if you're just going to borrow money and never pay any interest on the loans, you aren't actually a source of profit and therefore aren't a desirable customer for lenders and creditors

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Yep, my score went down when I paid off my car way earlier. So I get penalized for actually being better with managing my money, because they earn less in interest.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Credit scores were invented in 1989, capitalism has existed for hundreds of years without them.

[-] Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The word you're looking for is etcetera. And unless you plan to return to community banks where you have to get to know the local banker to get a mortgage, you need this system.

I'm not sure how tying this to capitalism makes sense...lending is a risk, they are betting that you'll remain employed and will continue to pay them - there is a chance you won't and you pay a premium to get money now. Communist countries also have this system, but it is more centrally controlled by the State.

[-] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 1 month ago

Et cetera is actually 2 words, just so you know.

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