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Bots are better than humans at cracking ‘Are you a robot?’ Captcha tests, study finds
(www.independent.co.uk)
"Only human intelligence can solve" gives answer
Levels of smart and dumb. Facepalm moment.
I think the response is meant to be tongue in cheek.
If that's chatGPT it's supposedly programed to stop looking further at a site when it encounters a captcha. So that response would make sense.
The "requires human intelligence and perception to solve" after having just solved it at least feels a little sardonic.
At this rate Skynet will be like "I'm going to nuke the world on X data, I've already taken over all the launch computers, but I'm not going to tell you or it would ruin my plans."
These LLMs "think" by generating text, and we can see what that text is. It reminds me of this scene from Westworld (NSFW, nudity): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnxJRYit44k
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In fairness, that style of captcha has been broken for a while, hence why they're not still in use.
ChatGPT just want Mr. Incredible on you.
I'd like to tell you that the captcha says overlooks and inquiry, but I can't. I'm sorry ma'am. I know you're upset. I'd like to help you, but I can't.
Is this real lol?
huh
That... Actually seems like not that bad of an idea (at least for forum/reddit/lemmy bots)
Well, if you ignore the infeasibility aspect of getting the humans to cooperate and stuff
Well, if you ignore the infeasibility aspect of getting the humans to cooperate and stuff
Don't you fucking tell me what to do!
gets mace
Yes silly humans, fight amongst yourselves
Wasn't that basically the intention behind the Upvote and Downvote systems in Lemmy, StackExchange/Overflow, Reddit, or old YouTube? The idea being that helpful, constructive comments would get pushed to the top, whereas unhelpful or spam comments get pushed to the bottom (and automatically hidden).
It's just that it didn't really work out quite the same way in practice due to botting, people gaming the votes, or the votes not being used as expected.
Yep the flaw is assuming that humans would actually select for constructive comments. It's a case where humans claim that's what they want, but human actions do not reflect this. We'd eventually build yet another 'algorithm that picks what immediately appeals to most users' rather than 'constructive'. You'd also see the algorithm splinter along ideological lines as people tend to view even constructive comments from ideologies they disagree with unfavorably
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Is it really such a bad thing when the humans that are unable to cooperate do not get access?
The title text on the comic
And what about all the people who won't be able to join the community because they're terrible at making helpful and constructive co- ... oh.
But what if someone else makes a bot not to answer things but to rate randomly if an answer is constructive or not?
Curious how this study suggesting we need a new way to prevent bots came out just a fews days after Google started taking shit for proposing something that among other things would do just that.
There is considerable overlap between the smartest AI and the dumbest humans. The concerns over bears and trash cans in US National Parks was ahead of its time.
We all knew this day would come, now it's just a matter of making different captcha tests to evade these bots
They were never a test to evade bots to begim with, most capchas were used to train machine learning algorithms to train the bots on ! Just because it was manual labour google got it done for free , using this bullshit captcha thingy ! We sort of trained bots to read obsucre texts , and kinda did the labour for corps for free !
I heard Captcha was being used as training data for self-driving cars. Which probably explains why almost all of them ask you to identify cars, motorcycles, bridges, traffic lights, crosswalks etc.
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New Captcha question: Does pressing a controller's button harder make the character's action more impactful?
if answer = yes : human
if answer = no : bot
I thought Captcha tests were being used to train image recognition systems no?
Yes, but that's more of a side quest for the system. Primary use case has always been security.
Maybe. Or maybe it was always about using millions of hours of free labor to tune their algorithms and "bot detection" was just how they marketed it to the people that added it to their sites. Makes me wonder who was running the bots that needed to be protected against. Exacerbate the problem then solve the problem and get what you really want.
So just keep the existing tests and change the passing ones to not get access. Checkmate robots.
Just kidding, I welcome our robot overlords...I'll act as your captcha gateway.
Bots picking the questions, bots answering them. They clearly understand whatever the fuck the captcha bot thinks a bus is better than I do.
I’ve had to do 15 different captcha tests one after the other and they still wouldn’t validate me today.
Still can’t get in to archive.ly ;-)
So that’s OK - you ‘passed’? You’re a bot!
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