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That guy has been such a disappointment.
Odd to see someone so seemingly left of the DNC pivot to being a DINO. Have to blame corporate money for some degree of it. He's completely lost it.
Didn't he recently have a stroke? That might have something to do with it.
He had a stroke before he was elected.
It was a few days before he was elected, and he had an operation on election day. So if he did change there wasn't enough time for anyone to know it.
Can't wait to put a different Democrat in his seat. What a disappointment for PA. Total loser.
Democrats are supposed to be a people who believe in redemption.
You have to want redemption first. It’s not just handed to you for breathing.
No, you're wrong.
Evangelicals know you get infinite redemption the instant you ask for it, period.
Because Jesus is just crazy for white people.
What a disappointment this guy turned out to be.
His brain is not working properly after the stroke.
He had a near-death scare and changed from "for the good of the people" to "everyone for themselves" and sold out to make as much money for himself and his family as he can.
Just my theory, but shit like this can change people when it shows them their own mortality.
Someone’s not getting re-elected.
Unless Dr. Oz runs against him again.
He's not winning the primary.
I think even Dr. Oz would have a shot there.
I think he wants a shot at the governor's office. The Senate seems to cramp his style, and he doesn't have the chops for national politics. He was Lt Gov, and has a significant advantage in name recognition and fundraising as a current Senator. Plus, the DNC is probably already vetting primary challengers to run against him in 2030.
PA is a weird state, in every way possible, and Shapiro did a lot of damage to his image in his attempt to land the VP job. If Shapiro decides not to run for reelection, the Democrats don't have a deep bench in Pennsylvania. Austin Davis is probably the only other name worth considering.
Fetterman would not win anything in a nationwide race, but if he can bring the Pennsyltuckians out to vote for a Democrat, he would win the state in a landslide.
the DNC is probably already vetting primary challengers to run against him in 2030.
Why would they? What has he done to anger them? If anything, having another Sinoma/Manchin waiting in the wings gives them more excuses why they can't do the things their constituents want them to do.
The ideal position for the democrats is controlling all 3 branches, but being unable to actually do anything their constituents want, since the desires of their constituents are mutually exclusive with those of the donor class.
Fuck this guy.
Seriously. Fifteen minutes are long expired.
this guy is such a tulsi gabbard ass loser
Most of Pennsylvania is red. Pennsyltucky is a thing. It has one of the biggest KKK groups in the nation.
So my eyesbrows were raised when I saw he wasn't from a more liberal area like Philadelphia.
Not saying they aren't out there in PA. I'm just saying there's a lot of folks who are backwards AF in PA.
DINO
He hasn't even tried redemption. Hell, he hasn't even begun to pay for his previous crimes and is looking to commit more crimes. Redemption is when people try to make things right. How can you say this is about giving second chances when all he's done is try the same shit the second time around. What a disappointment.
This does sound like he's got his tongue up Trump's butthole, but he's also not wrong. There are a lot of Trump supporters in rural Pennsylvania, and they are not swayed by the felony conviction or the racism or the dementia or the rape, because those inbred meth-heads are able to relate to Trump on a personal level.
He's not wrong about some of what he said. He also said this about Trump being a felon-
I mean, I thought Democrats, we were the party that was all about second chances and that we’re not going to condemn somebody based on mistakes or things in that kind of situation.
The idea that the party would give a second chance to Donald Trump when he hasn't even been sentenced yet is insane.
he also characterized trump's actions as "mistakes":
we’re not going to condemn somebody based on mistakes
I guess at 78 trump is still learning and making a few mistakes along the way
You're right. I didn't even think about that. What a stupid fucking thing to say.
You also need to be remorseful to deserve a second chance. Be a man and own up to your mistakes.
I do not think TFG is capable of that.
I agree with you completely about that. Honestly, it sounds like somebody who's about to have a scandal break.
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“Trump has created a special kind of a hold … and he’s remade the party and he has a special kind of place in Pennsylvania,” Fetterman said Thursday to a crowd at The Atlantic Festival. “And I think that only deepened after that first assassination attempt.”
“I also want people to understand, you know, and it’s not science, but there is, there’s energy and there’s kinds of anger on the ground in Pennsylvania, and people are very committed and strong,” Fetterman said. “Trump is going to be strong and … we have to respect that.
“I’m not going to sit down with a sitting vice president and tell her or say ‘Hey, no, no you better,’” he said. “I’m certainly not going to ‘mansplain’ that [to] the vice
I think he's just saying don't take PA for granted and there's a lot of work. It doesn't sound like an endorsement at all.
You left out the Trump bootlicking part of what he was quoted as saying in the interview, which I find suspicious:
I thought Democrats, we were the party that was all about second chances and that we’re not going to condemn somebody based on mistakes or things in that kind of situation.
Or do you think the Democrats should give a second chance to a convicted felon who has yet to be sentenced for felonies that Fetterman considers to be mistakes?
Yeah, he’s soft-supporting trump. This quote plus the “trump is going to be strong” line are definitely pro-trump in some fashion, then not wanting to “mansplain”.
Oh I missed that. TBH I read this from a different story.
Yeah the quote is bad.
Reading this story it still just sounds like he hates the approach they're taking about campaigning against him.
Do I think saying Trump deserves a "second chance" is dumb and gross given how much the fucker gets away with on a daily basis? Absolutely. This was not a good way to phrase it. This doesn't sound like someone sucking up to Trump though. It just sounds like someone that doesn't want to lose PA.
I also haven't paid too much attention to Fetterman so if there's other instances of him saying shit like this then I'm happy to stand corrected.
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It’s really funny seeing ppl make the surprised pikachu face about fetterman.
I don’t agree with his reasoning, but I do agree with his assessment that it’s a mistake to push the felon message so hard with trump.
If simply being convicted of a crime makes you a person not worthy of serious consideration in the political sphere, is that implicit endorsement of the legal system? Seems pretty conservative if you ask me.
Even if a person was to believe that our legal system is infallible and that there’s nothing wrong with weaponizing its decisions against one’s enemies, doesn’t bringing up the felony convictions beg the question of what they’re for? That hasn’t been a powerful message for democrats.
I have no love for trump, democrats seem to be messing up here though.
Do you think Trump just made mistakes rather than blatantly committed crimes?
Because Fetterman does. He said as much.
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If simply being convicted of a crime makes you a person not worthy of serious consideration in the political sphere, is that implicit endorsement of the legal system? Seems pretty conservative if you ask me.
Tell that to the "party of law and order" over there.
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