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[-] Furball@sh.itjust.works 55 points 10 months ago

Is there an article about this?

[-] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 52 points 10 months ago

I'm not crying, you're crying. Shut up

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 months ago

Guilty as charged

[-] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago

Not sure I'd really call this an "enlightened time."

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 103 points 10 months ago

Relative to the 1940s, it is.

[-] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

I guess it depends on the lense. Accepting various sexually? Sure. Our politics and the general state of things? I wouldn't describe us that way.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 80 points 10 months ago

Our politics and the general state of things? I wouldn’t describe us that way.

Compared to the politics and the general state of the 1940s? I, uh, would very much emphasize that the past is a much uglier place.

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For now. There's huge groups of people wanting to make the world 1940 again. And even more idiots that are willing to help.

[-] funkforager@sh.itjust.works 45 points 10 months ago

Do you know what was going on in the first half of the 1940s??

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you're white and male

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Bro for real, I need some examples of in which ways are things politically and the general state of things worse. There may be some things that have slightly regressed, but I can only think of 1. In almost all ways things have bettered since the 40s.

[-] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sure, we were just finishing FDR's presidency, where pro worker policies and the war effort helped simulate an economy back to strength. Tax on the wealthy rose to 94% by 1944, allowing a couple solid decades of lower/middle class growth.

Then, in the 70's until now, all of that has steadily come undone as the majority of Americans now struggle to get by. The ultra wealthy scoot on by, paying 15% (if that) and because most of the country struggles to earn a decent wage, taxes aren't paying for upkeep of our infrastructures and our schools are funded less and less.

I don't count this as an enlightened time. I view us living in modern dark ages of feudal lords (ultra rich) and the rest of us serfs.

[-] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 42 points 10 months ago

To be fair, they said 'a more enlightened time', like how my face can be more handsome without me actually being handsome. :|

[-] norimee@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Times did change though, quite a lot even.

I'm not LGBTQ+ so I can only say what I know from other people. But when you speak to older gay people, boomer gays and such, they tell you awfuly heartbreaking stories.

Of course gays and other LGBTQ+ folx still get hated on and discriminated and there is still a long, long way to go.

But that doesn't change, that nowadays you can publish loveletters of two men, without destroying the lives of each person involved. Back then, the letter writers would have probably ended up in prison and everyone else with knowledge of them or any kind of involvement would loose their jobs and carrers and would have been shunned. Someone responsible publishing them or making a film about them, would probably go to prison too.

So yes. I'd call this a more enlightened time compared to Europe in the 1930'/40's.

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

The 1920's were starting to become enlightened... which only fueled the facists hate. Were currently in that same situation, but this time we must let the facists know they are weak and wont hurt anymore people this time.

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah, not the same thing and a couple decades earlier but Wilde's "De Profundis" is a useful contrast.

[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

I was thinking the same: Made into a book that will be thrown onto a burning pile of woke books if trump wins.

[-] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
[-] princessnorah 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Except it's still a kind of dumb take honestly. Your country has a minority of hateful fucks in positions of power, that can rile up the 30% minority of other hateful fucks that vote them in.

Let alone that, ya know, the rest of the world also exists and is, for the most part, headed in the right direction.

[-] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago

Wait in what world are you living where countries are heading in the right direction? Fascism, ultranationalism and the far right are thriving with no indication of slowing down.

[-] princessnorah 2 points 10 months ago

Victoria, Australia. Thinking of changing my birth cert to puppygirl, because legally I can ☺️

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

10% more enlightened

[-] norimee@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Anyone has more information about the book? This is something I'd like to request my library to add to their collection.

[-] norimee@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

I found the short film that was mentioned in the article someone else mentioned The Letter Men

[-] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Awwww, what a close friendship they had. Fully plutonic. Just two very straight friends. Good ol' guy love, between two guys.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 18 points 10 months ago

Totally plutonic. No real planets involved

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Plutonic love was between fat man and little boy.

... That sounds kinda off

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

Do not compute. Isn't Pluto Mickey Mouse's pet dog?

[-] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

That's disgusting! People shouldn't be made into books, it's unhygienisch

[-] VubDapple@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

This is cool. A literal dream come true.

[-] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago

For anyone interested, these two did not get together after the war and live happily ever after.

One of them shacked up with two other men while on deployment.

Limerence is a hell of a thing.

[-] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Thanks for teaching me a new word.

[-] DerArzt@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

That's so cute!

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