Monitors are horizontal, webpages are vertical. Horizontal tabs waste precious space.

Try using tree style tabs, it's really great. Most websites are laid out such that there's tons of wasted horizontal space and vertical space is limited, so you increase usable screen space by moving tabs to the side. Additionally, with tabs at the top, the more tabs you have, the harder they are to read and keep organized. With tree style tabs, no matter how many you have, they're always maximally readable, and the ability to nest them and collapse groups gives you a ton of power organization wise. You can also easily hide the sidebar when you DO need the extra horizontal space. The ability to bookmark groups of tabs at once makes it much easier to keep close tabs you aren't actively using.

We spend so much time using web browsers, why not optimize them for human use?

I find them much more natural and easy to manage

For big ass monitors, that usually have left space at the sides.

You can nest them

Edit: the pettiness to downvote this comment lmao

It's also easiert to read the titles of the tabs.

Samir you are breaking the thread. Triple sharp right!

But it is pretty obvious that it is not the point here, or isn't it? The fact that Mozilla is putting work into AI instead of I don't know rewriting more of the Firefox backend in rust, which was the initial purpose of the language, is offensive. The Mozilla/Firefox VPN is offensive, because it is shit (was shit when I tried it). Sneaking in advertisement IDs into Firefox which are enabled by default is offensive. Having a for profit branch of Mozilla is offensive.

These are all from memory, and probably not accurate, the point still stands, Mozilla puts stupid shit into Firefox nobody wants or needs, instead of developing it along user needs.

Firefox is the last bastion of independent browser development. miss me with $obscure_browser_project, because they have no market share, cannot be used by my granny and are often using components of different browsers.

This is all we got, the rest is chromium based and is developed by a advertisement company.

I just want them to not add stupid shit. It costs money, manpower, and my nerves. None of them are available in abundance.

He complains about the priority given.

@marsup They started working on one of these projects this year and it’s shipping. The other has been in the works for a decade. Guess which one is getting priority.

source. He is also very aware it's not ready and even says so

@ePD5qRxX @marsup It's very cool that this is possible, but (a) if you have to activate them in about:config, it's not really “ready"

source

I agree with him. Mozilla's priorities have been wack for more than a decade.

I was very confused by this tweet because I have no idea what chatbot he's talking about, or what side tabs he's talking about.

I am generally against putting AI in everything not because I think AI is necessarily a fad or anything, I simply don't need 400 different iterations of the same technology

I want an optional sidebar because degenerates who are wrong still deserve the choice.

Firefox forks have dozens of users! Dozens!

As long as I can use something that isn't Chrome's 0dayware with 5 CVEs a week, I don't care how many people use it.

I haven't looked into the chatbot thingy at all yet, but if it meets basic quality standards (local LLM, not too large in size, actually helpful), then personally, I do actually think that it should be included by default, because it'll primarily help out the kind of users who don't know to install add-ons.

Like, people had the same complaint with the translation feature they included, and I'm just seeing my dad who doesn't speak English, who would never hear of such an add-on, where this just opens up a big chunk of the web to him.

It is spying on you. https://make-firefox-private-again.com/

about:config

dom.private-attribution.submission.enabled

set to false