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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by EABOD25@lemm.ee to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

I think a little clarification is needed. No. I don't actually think everyone there is insane. I don't care about the bans so stop trying to use that. HB enthusiasts coming here and trying to call me out achieves nothing besides proving my point

Edit: Feel free to keep trying to brigade me. It's not going to scare me to take this down

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[-] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 209 points 2 years ago

Thank god for hexbear and lemmygrad though. Imagine the effort needed to block them all individually if spread over all the other instances.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it's actually helpful to have safe spaces for hateful assholes so they can be corralled away.

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[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 166 points 2 years ago

If you've heard of Chapo Trap House that's them. If not, most of those kids/idiots/trolls are the type of terminally online fake leftists that give other leftist a bad image in general. They were so ridiculous Reddit got tired of their shit and banned them a couple years back.

[-] fern@lemmy.autism.place 63 points 2 years ago

They were banned when reddit cracked down on any leftist thought, not because they were especially bad from what I saw.

[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 85 points 2 years ago

They were banned around the same time as The Donald because everyone was tired of the shit both groups were doing.

[-] fern@lemmy.autism.place 52 points 2 years ago

I do remember that, and I remember them half-assing the Donald by just letting them make a new sub (or overrun conspiracy irrc)

[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 years ago

Yeah they immediately took over Conspiracy and consolidated the hold on Conservative. Made me really sad as conspiracy used to have some incredible rabbit hole posts. Then one day it was just TD all over again.

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[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 34 points 2 years ago

The_Donald was dead amd had migrated to a non-reddit forum a month before the ban. It was typical "both sides" bullshit from a dude who always uses the kiddy gloves with fascists while throwing the book at any leftists

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 years ago

They were banned while saying John Brown did nothing wrong and that slaveowners deserve to die.

Sounds pretty cool to me.

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[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 104 points 2 years ago

is everyone ~~in hexbear~~ insane?

Yes.

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[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 100 points 2 years ago

Hexbear is sort of like a village of eldritch abomination worshippers in a Lovecraftian horror story - isolated, insular, entirely wrapped up in their own esoteric rituals and ideas and language, and immediately and collectively hostile to outsiders.

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago

Wow, this is such an accurate description of so many online communities that have come and gone over the years, nicely done.

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[-] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 90 points 2 years ago
[-] FundMECFSResearch 45 points 2 years ago

And increasingly lemmy.ml, sadly

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[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 89 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lmao, they sure are insane. But if you listen closely they will tell you that sanity is a western psyop and you should enjoy the simple truths of life, like shitting in your own pants and bragging about it online.

[-] EABOD25@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago

I got IBS so I guess I already have an advantage in that regard

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 78 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

To be clear, this is coming from you getting banned for being a debate-pervert after you claimed Putin invaded Ukraine to "reinstate the USSR" as a secret Commie and refused to take a pro-Palestinian stance, equating Palestinian resistance with a century of settler-colonial genocide.

I think it's a bit terminally online to run away to a defederated instance to lick your wounds, rather than reflect on why being a debatebro is unhealthy.

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[-] scoobford@lemmy.zip 75 points 2 years ago

Many of them, yes. They're among the most radical of the leftist instances, which means that they attract a lot of propagandists and tankies. They have some perfectly reasonable people too, but you know, vocal minority. Its the main thing most people notice about those instances.

Many people block hexbear, Lemmy.ml, and lemmygrad for these reasons.

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[-] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 63 points 2 years ago

Not really. They have a lot of bits and in-jokes which are going to seem incomprehensible to anyone from the outside, but most of them are pretty chill if you engage in good faith. It's like a lot of tech communities; if you don't do your research and ask intelligent questions, you're likely to get told to RTFM.

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[-] hark@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago

Do you have any examples of this? Since world is defederated from that instance, I only end up visiting it when people like you come in and talk about how absolutely crazy it is over there, so occasionally I'll take a curious peek. This time I see... a post about Indigenous rights, a post criticizing capitalism, a post dunking on musk, a post about FOSS... when do I start seeing the crazy?

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[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Obviously you can't lump them all into one category, but the majority of them seem to be willing to cause chaos on other instances for a laugh. Doesn't sit right with me, so i blocked them

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[-] Deinonychusanti@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 years ago

Heavily scratched liberal gets banned from hexbear for being a debate pervert and trying to start fights, immediately proceeds to call everyone there mentally ill

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[-] stoly@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago

Yes. Block the community and move on.

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[-] TerkErJerbs@lemm.ee 45 points 2 years ago

idk, I've seen all the hype around hexbear users being obnoxious around Lemmy (including our own instance debating blocking the instance, followed by several of their members brigading the thread true to form)... but I've explored the communities on the instance itself and even subscribed to some of them like mutual aid, gaming etc, and those that I'm watching are actually just normal people doing normal things if more left than some other similar groups. In my experience it isn't "all" hexbear users, because that would be a dumb generalization.

There are some assholes on that instance to be sure. Show me one that this isn't true of. I'm glad our instance didn't block them because I now get to decide for myself. I block communities and/or users if they're a problem for me. I think that's a good way.

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[-] zante@lemmy.wtf 44 points 2 years ago

Safe space for teens cos playing as communists, where they can be nasty to outsiders.

I like the politics, but it’s filled with truly obnoxious children try to out-communist each other

the philosopher Bertrand Russell warned of the dangers of communisms tendency to become a religious cult and he was right.

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[-] Arelin@lemmy.zip 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Damn it's nice to see the comments are surprisingly evenly split between hating on it and actually being reasonable. Quite a difference from when redditors first moved in here last year.

I guess the more people talk about it, the more people actually visit it for themselves and form their own opinions.

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[-] archchan@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 years ago

I was going to block them and lemmygrad at first but decided not to and instead tried to understand what all these people were about.

Now I'm a communist, have a hammer and sickle, live in China, and my favorite color is red. Death to America comrades! Get fucked libs /s

Seriously though, they're not anymore insane than us. Maybe just a bunch of drunken commies at a bar who don't really bother to distance themselves from the subjects of a century of red scare propaganda. In any case, it's worth keeping an open mind and engaging in good faith.

Though as leftist as I personally am and have become in time, I'm not going to call anyone comrade or start using hammer and sickle imagery except in the context of history lol. Libs can still get fucked though.

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[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago

Most of the Lemmy.World users and mods are actively advocating to vote for Genocide, so i understand that Hexbear is a culture shock.

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[-] m_f@midwest.social 41 points 2 years ago

It's not just you. Like many people that get sucked into cults, you don't want to directly engage with them. Just nicely encourage them to deprogram themselves, and focus on maturing and becoming an adult. They really don't like get called out like that, based on my interactions with them.

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[-] b161 39 points 2 years ago

Nope. They seem pretty sane and rational in comparison to places like Reddit, Lemmy.world, Twitter, 4chan, Facebook, etc.

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[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 years ago
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[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago

I was bullied for off Lemmy.One by the hexbear mods who sent hexbear users my way to harass me...

All for (while I'm still a raging communist) not being a pro authoritarian communist.

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[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 35 points 2 years ago

I don't mind communism. I do mind advocating for Russia, in a war where they are clearly the aggressor, and harassing then moving to harass the same left wing for not being as radical or as pro-russian and deluding themselves with false beliefs that they are alone and no one is left wing other than them

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[-] arefx@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago

Yes they are insane/extremists

[-] oce@jlai.lu 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Basic mental health config for a non tankist user of Lemmy is to block hexbear, lemmygrad and lemmy.ml instances first. Then, any user from there that you will see calling nazis anyone who don't think like them.
I almost left Lemmy thinking it was a tankist shithole before understanding the pattern.
Then it gets back to the average former-Reddit techie activist, which is still pretty left.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 32 points 2 years ago

Hates stuff the west does.

Loves stuff China and Russia do.

It's the same stuff.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 years ago

If you say something wrong about something they care about and you can't back it up, they're going to be rude to you.

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[-] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 years ago

My experience is that people in lemmy.world are intolerant bigots.

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