Reddit is cool?

Yeah but what good has ever come from 4chan?

Always seemed like a place for people to be subversive and provide a haven for hate and degeneracy.

true.

anyway, fuck spez.

I mean, making a post about hating on Reddit, on Lemmy, is pretty circlejerky too at this point.

There's a key difference, at least when it comes to hating Reddit.

Most [all?] users here have actual, informed reasons to hate Reddit, from past experiences with the site. They aren't simply joining some bandwagon due to social expectations to bend to the crowd.

Make sure to have some LLM generate the comment for you, as LLMs learning synthetic data may fuck them up over time: AI models fed AI-generated data quickly spew nonsense

4chan is kinda the sump of the Internet. All the crud sinks there.

4chan, in part, ruined real life. So much of the initial meme buzz around Trump came directly from 4chan - god emperor, etc. /b/ and /pol/ had large coordinated campaigns to boost Trump for lulz and to fuck with people. These made the news occasionally and were sometimes quite wide-reaching. Edit: not to forget Qanon, pizzagate, etc.

Additionally, 4chan is responsible for a massive swathe of meme culture more broadly. Most people don't dredge its depths or even know "the hacker named 4chan" exists, but it has been a massively influential force.

4chan doesn't nearly have the kind of traffic to ever have ruined the internet.

It's like a teenager.

I was one of those. Before Lemmy, nothing was truly an alternative for Reddit. There were alternative Twitter-like sites up the ass and Facebook; but nothing similar to Reddit's layout/presentation.

• A website built by unpaid users and mods that Reddit wants to profit off of.

It's not exactly a replacement, but TV tropes provides a lot of satisfaction on this front.

Aaron Swartz was a co-founder.

Swartz has been six feet under for longer than some Lemmyites have been alive.

It is rapidly becoming an unviable way to find info these days. I have to specifically ignore anything from the past couple years.

at this point I get like 75% fuck spez/etc post edits instead

Except companies have learned the meta, and now a bunch of search queries for Reddit are filled with ads on Reddit. (not to mention you have to use google to get their results now.)

I do recall that people were extraordinarily toxic online. Reddit for a few years was a breath of fresh air but then got too big.

I disagree with you on how well known Reddit is, it's been mentioned in enough news stories over the years that most people have heard of it, even if they've never been there.

Since about 2018, I’ve gotten the sense that most internet users know about Reddit, but are embarrassed to admit they know about Reddit.

Eventually it'll be all bots jerking themselves off

Half the users may as well be bots anyway, it's just dorks yelling the same catch phrases at each other in the comments.