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submitted 10 months ago by Sunny@slrpnk.net to c/linux@lemmy.ml

SUSE just open-sourced a typeface :)

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[-] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 60 points 10 months ago

Already in the AUR as otf-suse and ttf-suse. :)

[-] trevor 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Silly question: what's the difference between the otf and ttf fonts?

Edit: thanks for the explainers!

[-] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 37 points 10 months ago

As far as I understand it, TTFs are more basic, while OTF can have more features and glyphs.

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 28 points 10 months ago

OTF is a modern extended version of TTF, with more features. Downsides are it can be bigger in filesize and could even take longer to load. But that is not really relevant for modern computing and one should default to OTF, unless there is a good reason to use TTF variant (if both are available).

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 10 months ago

no dotted zeroes = no terminal use

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 31 points 10 months ago

I don't think this font was designed for the terminal. It's a sans font with some inspiration from monospace styling, but with focus of brand recognition and usage in headlines or text. That's what I'm getting here. Similar to what Ubuntu does with their font.

[-] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I don't see a monospaced version anyway

[-] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not a fan of semi-serif fonts, and not digging the rounded "corners" on E and L (while having sharp ones in lowercase L and lowercase i), but it seems it is trying to be highly readable so indeed it should be great for UI stuff. And doing a complete typeface covering such huge character map is no easy job.

[-] aksdb@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

I don't understand how that hybrid is supposed to work. Monospace is a binary attribute; either all chars have the same width or not. So what is the font now?

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 23 points 10 months ago

It says that it s "inspired" by monospaced fonts. I imagine they mean stuff like the tiny serif on the lowercase i

[-] EtzBetz@feddit.org 8 points 10 months ago
[-] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

That's a great question, on the face of it I can't find very much info online. Wikipedia has an entry for monotype but not hybrid. The page 'hybrid font' does not exist. If anyone has more info please feel free to tag me, I'd love to know.

[-] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago

I like it. Not gonna nitpick. It's nicer than those microsoft fonts that came out recently

[-] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I need more discussion on typefaces. Typography is one of my hyperfixations. :-)

P.S.: I meant "special interests", not hyperfixations.

[-] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

hyperfixations

You probably mean "special interest". Simplifying, hyperfixation is such a strong fixation on something that you absolutely can't think about anything else.

[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Based on what I've seen from this person, this is all I ever seen them talking about

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[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

What is going on with that lowercase g?

[-] accideath@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

That’s fairly standard for serif fonts like times new roman, baskerville, etc. Although it is uncommon in modern sans serif fonts and/or fonts designed to be viewed on a screen.

[-] exu@feditown.com 4 points 10 months ago

The Fira family has a similar fancy g for some reason

[-] accideath@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Here in Germany at least, if you read almost any printed novel, the type face will include this type of g. It’s so common, that I didn’t realise it’d be strange for some people.

(Although I do recall seeing a post about a kid that was confused by that weird letter, somewhere a while ago. Probably was still back on r*****)

[-] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 4 points 10 months ago

Huh, just realized that the r-word and “Reddit” have the same number of characters.

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[-] Guenther_Amanita@slrpnk.net 12 points 10 months ago

I will give the font a try!

I'm not dyslexic, but I think legibility is super important and underrated on most distros. This one looks both aesthetic and very readable.

Do you know if it is already in the Fedora repos? If not, how can I install it?

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 9 points 10 months ago

Personally just grabbed it from their release page: https://github.com/SUSE/suse-font/releases/tag/v1.000. Then dropped those files into my ~/.fonts, directory.

[-] probableprotogen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

This will be a nice addition to my collection of fonts :3

[-] Cornflake_Dog@lemmy.wtf 6 points 10 months ago

That's awesome! Now how can I add it to Libreoffice?

[-] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

Same as any other font. Add it to ~/.fonts or /usr/local/fonts. You might also have something like font browser already preinstalled, and usually there’s an Install button

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[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

I'm not a fan of the way the lowercase L's tail interacts with uppercase letters, but other than that it's not bad!

[-] Botzo@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The "fi" combination also seems problematic since they seem to intersect.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 26 points 10 months ago

That's a ligature, it's deliberate.

[-] Botzo@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

To me, that's even worse. Ligatures that have 0 separation where it's expected short circuit my reading comprehension.

[-] haerrii@feddit.org 8 points 10 months ago

You can turn them off with every font. But you'll be surprised by how much they can improve readability, because they remove optical irritation as shown here.

[-] Botzo@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

So what I see there is that badly designed fonts require ligatures to correct interactions.

Like, I get that there are some neat ones, e.g. I have them turned on when writing code for symbols, but they seem wholly unnecessary and distracting in alphabetical characters.

But I'm also the kind of weirdo that thinks the world needs more monospace fonts.

/shrug

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It is the exact opposite. Ligatures were created to help deal with the lack of clarity when symbols overlap. fi, ff, fl, ffi, have historically (like print press historical) been common ligatures where others are stylistic, where others are downright questionable & make things harder to read. The first category should almost always be supported, & the others can usually be disabled if not commonly off by default where you opt in for some design, not for general body copy.

What you are referring to about ‘programming ligatures’ is an outright abuse of open type features full of false positives, ambiguities, & lack of clarity for outsiders to understand what your code means. What you want is Unicode supported in your language so you can precisely what you mean than using ASCII abominations—like meaning but typing ->, dash + greater, than which isn’t at all what you mean which is a rightward arrow. (with a non-exhaustive languages with decent Unicode support: Raku, Julia, Agda, PureScript, Haskell with Unicode pragma, & all APL dialects).

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

That's what a ligature is. Combining two characters so they don't clash.

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 5 points 10 months ago

It's a nice font. I just have a hard time with trusting SUSE after the SUSE vs OpenSUSE debacle.

[-] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 4 points 10 months ago
[-] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 10 months ago
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[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

But does it have unicode emojis?

😀 😁 😂 😃 😄 😅 😆 😇 😈 🕧 🕯️ 🕰️ 🕳️ 🕴️ 🕵️ 🕶️ 🕷️ 🕸️ 🕹️ 🕺 🖇️ 🖊️ 🖋️ 🖌️ 🖍️ 🖐️ 🖕 🖖 🖤 🖥️ 🖨️ 🖱️ 🖲️ 🖼️ 🗂️ 🗃️ 🗄️ 🗑️ 🗒️ 🗓️ 🗜️ 🗝️ 🗞️ 🗡️ 🗣️ 🗨️ 🗯️ 🗳️ 🗺️ 🗻 🗼 🗽 🗾 🗿

Hmm it specifically seems to be missing emojis

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[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

I don't love it, but I also went in hoping for a possible new monospaced font to try out. It's nice to have options and maybe give Suse a slightly more distinct look I suppose.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Random recommendation, but I recently stumbled upon https://monaspace.githubnext.com, and it seems like a pretty cool approach to the whole "monospace font for dev work"

[-] Deebster@programming.dev 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I like that idea of using the different fonts for e.g. Copilot suggestions - reminds me of reading Asterix comics as a kid when they'd use gothic black for the Goth's speech, etc.

edit: e.g.

[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

I remember these when they came out, and I liked Neon and Krypton the most. I'm glad you linked it so others might get to see it though, thanks!

[-] mosjek@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

The idea of the github fonts is interesting, but I find it strange that the same letters next to each other can have different widths. I currently prefer the CommitMono approach.

[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

That's actually very much my kind of font, thanks a lot. At first glace I still prefer my current font (Liberation Mono), but I'll give it a test run and see how it feels after a couple of weeks. You can never tell right away if a font is a keeper.

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[-] daqu@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago

Looks nice, but I will keep IBM Plex Mono.

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