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[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 months ago

I hate accusations of flip floping in politics... Trump absolutely is an unreliable asshole but it is reasonable and good for people's views on different topics to evolve following receiving new information.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 84 points 3 months ago

There’s a big difference between an evolving view and just saying whatever you think the people in front of you want to hear and pretending you’ve always thought that.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 months ago

I don't disagree, I just loathe that term after the bullshit usage against Kerry.

[-] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

But why so desperate to give trump air cover? There’s what’s obvious and then Kerry?

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Sorry, I can't quite parse your comment?

[-] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

Please explain why Kerry has anything to do with giving trump leverage.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Oh, I just hate critizing people for changing their minds... there are so many things wrong with Trump that I'd rather see more of the other angles. Trump is also extremely inconsistent from day to day so calling him a flip flopper just seems like a weak attack - he holds whatever position is politically expedient (see abortion)... so his "stance" on an issue (other than the bizarre ones he fabricates like building a wall or excessive tariffs) don't really mean anything.

So the TL;DR I'd prefer the campaign focus on their own policies and just let the weird senile old man shout at the wind without giving him any media attention.

[-] Volkditty@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

I think we're safely past the point of having to give Trump and any of his views the benefit of the doubt.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 14 points 3 months ago

thing is he does not really flip flop as much as talk out of both sides of his mouth.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

In general, I agree. But if someone is saying different things every other week, going back and forth, it shows that they really have no stance. Flip flopping isn't evolving your understanding, it's constantly changing your "view" to appeal to whatever crowd you're in front of.

[-] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 months ago

trump is a liar it does not matter what he said.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

The article didn't mention harris' stance on the issue. Is she for legalization?

[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago

Nothing on record that I know of, but some people in her circle has said she's open to legalization

[-] Botzo@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

For legalization, but historically toed the party line

It's sadly a common theme with her: she claims to be progressive on many subjects, but when push comes to shove, she almost always toes the party line.

I hope she'll buck that trend when she's president, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[-] queue 7 points 3 months ago

Depends if the lobbyists want it legal.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that's a given, since the owner donors decide where the party line is more than anyone else..

[-] nullroot@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Yeah, my feelings exactly

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

I noticed he didn't call for an abolition of federal anti-cannabis law.

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