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Factually, that's what he did during his time in office as well. I'm not sure what they thought had changed.

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[-] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 155 points 11 months ago

This is an interesting article - thanks for sharing! I found this snippet noteworthy:

According to one former aide who served in the White House under the former president, Trump has lost the plot.

“The stakes for Trump this election are arguably the highest they’ve ever been. His criminal cases don’t go away if he loses. Yet he seems to be phoning it in, running a remarkably low-energy, undisciplined campaign,” explained Alyssa Farah Griffin, a former Trump spokesperson. “From spending days off the campaign trail golfing to coming up with frankly weak nicknames like ‘Kamabala,’ it feels like he’s lost his mojo.”

That is a good point about the criminal cases not going away if he loses, right? It's interesting how it's openly stated by the former aide.

I'm unable to muster any sympathy for the felon's perpetual state of stewing.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago

He must think that "his" SC will protect him regardless, so he has an out if he loses. Or, he knows about the plan to ratfuck the election regardless of the outcome.

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 71 points 11 months ago

A. Win it. (Looking increasingly unlikely)

B. Steal it. Most of the fake electors are still in place, they've had four years to hire a new sleepers

C. Coup 2.0 historically the Democrats haven't been very smart about things and it'll totally blindside when you pull it again only this time with more people. All those people that got locked up in serious consequences we'll just tell them that we'll pardon them again

D. Civil War 2.0. if he doesn't win it, and can't steal it, and if there's actually military protection around the Capital for 2.0. he'll just openly call for the south to rise again. Only this time it's not the south, it's the rural areas, hell plan a Vietnam style offensive where the rural armed people lay siege everywhere.

My real actual best guess is he's tired. He's old, he's out of shape, he's stressed to the nines and he's just trying to blow off the stress, he probably does have a plan b in a plan c. His actual plan d is probably two take a flight to Russia.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 26 points 11 months ago

Even the recent movie "Civil War" didn't touch on how and why such a thing started, because it just doesn't make sense. There may be regional conflicts and riots, I don't doubt that, but there's no single organization to pull off a new Confederacy or whatever it would be. People watching the film even laughed at the union of Texas and California...what? Maybe that was a subtle message by the writers to not take the overall thing seriously, the movie wasn't about the background events but about the characters in a hypothetical situation.

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[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

Also a good point that a critical measure for the leader of the free world in the mind of a Trump staffer is how strong the nickname game is.

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[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

If he loses, I'm very curious to see if people in power still support him. I don't think he will be very viable again in 4 years, physically or mentally.

He may become more useful if they let him get eaten by the legal machine. Then they're able to invoke his image like they do with Reagan all the time, but with some martyrdom thrown in about how those mean libs kicked a former president when he was down, nevermind he got away with the crimes he'd be charged with for about a decade by then.

He might not ever serve time, but having everyone ignore him as useless as he sunsets might be an almost fitting punishment. We know the right struggles with empathy, so he could be facing some very frosty cold shoulders.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

The best thing that could have happened for Republicans was trump got assassinated and Biden refused to step down.

Now they're stuck with trump and Dems cut all their baggage by dropping their elderly infirm candidate.

trumps only real shot is stepping down to. Letting someone else run, and counting on them to pardon everything possible and the SC to take care of the rest.

That has a chance at least, but he can't beat Kamala.

[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

I'm glad he put in as much effort into this as he did to stopping Covid. I think I'd have preferred Biden to Kamala, but Joe just stopped bringing it, so I was getting nervous. Without years of Sleepy Joe and Brandon memes, Trump just can't figure it out lately, and barely seems to be trying.

I'm in Pennsylvania, so I'm going to be voting the hell out of this election, and hopefully we'll reach Jan 7 without drama. Then we can start getting on Kamala for her less than great positions, but until then, we got bigger things to deal with and I'm not going to crap much on the better of the 2 options. Post election is another story.

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[-] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 112 points 11 months ago

What worries me is we'll have a repeat of 2016 where everyone just assumed Hillary was going to win so they didn't vote. Hopefully people will go out and vote regardless.

[-] Cranakis@lemmy.one 33 points 11 months ago

Absolutely. When I saw the headline I thought the same thing. Bad actors will try to sew exactly that thought in liberal circles as long as Dems have the momentum.

We can't buy into it and need to resolve ourselves to fight like hell until election day, regardless of what "the polls" or "the experts" say. We need to make Kamala win in an indisputable landslide. We need to send a message that will make Trump and his acolytes political pariahs from now on.

[-] Donebrach@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

thats not entirely accurate. Yes there was not as much enthusiasm behind Hillary as there was behind Obama, and she had a lot of (mostly invented) baggage, but she lost beacause she didnt campaign in a meaningful way lost a few swing states by a small margin (because yes, most reasonable people assumed she’d be the next president—and so many reasonable people assumed that eventuality that she won the popular vote by a wide margin).

Trump is noise and makes money for media outlets so they give him a massive and constant boost of brand recognition. They could’ve all been even mildly responsible in 2020 and just stop talking about the out of office former president but instead they kept him in the zietgeist which allowed him to run again this year.

I am still finding hope in the fact he did not win reelection the first time against a ~~walking corpse~~ elder statesman, and has not won elections for most of his endorsed down-ballot candidates in the past X years.

Anyway, people who do not want him in office should go and vote against him.

(and people who do want to see him in office again, sorry you shouldn’t vote for a lot of reasons but the biggest one being they’ll know who you are and that’s how they get you and also vaccines are mandatory for the polls so you should stay away and they’ll also forcibly swap your genitals and ITS REALLY TRUE FOLLOW ME ON FACETUBE)

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 26 points 11 months ago

I still curse the idiots I knew who skipped voting to attend "Hillary Won!" parties

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[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 100 points 11 months ago

That's because he only cares about when the election happens. He has plans in place to deny the results and to send his chud army out to terrorize. That's all he is waiting for.

[-] bluemellophone@lemmy.world 49 points 11 months ago

Yeah… this feels right. He seems to have checked out because the real campaign starts once he has lost. They’d rather use their dollars shielding him from further judicial consequence and preparing to set the country on fire once he loses.

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[-] rainynight65@feddit.org 17 points 11 months ago

Thing is though, if that's his plan, he still needs to keep his base energised. If all they see him do now is slack off and visibly not care, they may just think he's given up, and not turn up on election day. Fraud will be harder to argue with meagre turnout of his voters. They may also be harder to mobilise in November if they got disenchanted with him in September.

So in a way, by stewing, sulking and slacking off, he may just not be doing himself any favours.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 82 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I wish every election could be this easy

Remember to still vote, there was a time when too many people just didn't because it was assured Hillary would win.

Roe V. Wade was appealed and many women are dead now as a result

[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 17 points 11 months ago

2016 was also "easy"

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[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 11 months ago

Trump since the 80s has gotten away with deplorable crimes and was still liked. He doesn't know how to handle hate and reality that only freaks like him. Then you add a black women kicking his ass, chief kiss.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

"chief kiss" made me laugh so hard

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[-] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago

Trump is really weak, old and tired. I prefer the younger, energetic Kamala rather than a whining, fat old man.

[-] exanime@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

So he is doing what he did while President?

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[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 32 points 11 months ago

Trump is being told by his donors that the voting isn't important because they'll litigate the shit out of the election if they lose.

What's important to understand is that Trump isn't the one in charge. He's a useful idiot.

Trump's motivation isn't Project 2025, or abortion bans, or anything at all for that matter. He has no principles. He agrees with the last person who spoke with him. That's how his brain works. What Trump cares about is having the power to pardon himself and make all of his criminal charges go away.

So a bunch of fundies see an opportunity. THEY have an agenda. THEY have a plan. THEY tell Trump, WE WILL get you into power by hook or by crook. We'll pay for your campaign because we know you're broke. We'll get our people in place everywhere we can. From a vote perspective, you're going to lose this election...WE are your only chance to avoid prison and (potentially worse) no longer being useful to Putin and falling out a high window.

Trump is golfing not because he's given up. But because a) he's miserable and has no interest in being the president, but he has no choice if he wants to avoid prison. and b) He honestly believes he doesn't need the votes because his "people" (who he's stupid and egotistical enough to think that HE controls rather than the other way around) have it wrapped up for him.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 months ago

Either it's a demotivated Trump, or it's a Trump who figures that if he's going on the offensive now, then the Harris campaign will still have time for a comeback.

Friends don't let friends get lazy, remind everyone to vote!

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Oh! I've seen this one! This is a classic!

Let me guess, he's "growing increasingly isolated" yeah?

[-] ryrybang@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Trump aides alarmed that Trump is ranting about crowd sizes.

Trump aides alarmed that Trump's skin is orange.

Trump aides alarmed that Trump only cares about himself.

Trump aides alarmed that Trump is living in the past.

Trump aides alarmed that Trump is a convicted felon.

Like, who are these aides? Where were they the last 20 years?

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

I love that his rebuttal to the successful DNC last week was to be the weird old guy who calls into talk shows to ramble. CSPAN energy.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Wanna bet he's not even good at golf and has aides placed around the hole to toss out a good distance ball when he shanks it

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

He is known to cheat at golf competitions. He's not very good.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

He's also known to have people cheat FOR him. There was some pictures a long time ago of a secret service agent (maybe just a security guard) with an obvious pocket full of golf balls he got called on, and then tried to hide from view of photographers.

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[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 18 points 11 months ago

With the Democrats sucking up all the media attention

This article is desperately trying to change that

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He is expecting a house contingency vote after his 70+ swing state sycophants deny Harris the 270 threshhold when he's under by delaying to certify. that's why he doesn't care

[-] olympicyes@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

You know this is true because he’s not really even asking his supporters to vote for him.

[-] norimee@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

I can imagine that this is a combination of his mental decline, his thoughts of grandeur that the people vote for him regardless and the knowledge that they won't accept any negative election results and they have a better, bigger plan in place invalidating the results and a Jan. 6^2^

I really hope officials are better prepared this time for the GOPs shady business. Because they basically publicly announced it several times. Believe them when they say they'll fight the results, you don't have to vote anymore and they'll make the US an autocracy.

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