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Freed Israeli captive Noa Argamani says she was wounded by Israel, not Hamas (www.middleeasteye.net)
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Noa Argamani, an Israeli woman freed from Hamas captivity in Gaza in June, said on Friday that her injuries were caused by an Israeli air strike during her rescue operation, not by a Hamas attack.

Speaking to diplomats from G7 countries in Tokyo on Wednesday, Argamani detailed her ordeal after she was taken captive by Palestinian armed groups during the 7 October attack. However, two days later, she issued a statement on Instagram, saying that some of her remarks had been misquoted and taken out of context.

Contrary to some Israeli media reports, Argamani clarified that she was not beaten or had her hair shaved by Palestinian fighters.

"[Hamas members] did not hit me while I was in captivity, nor did they cut my hair; I was injured by the collapse of a wall caused by an [Israeli] Air Force pilot," she added.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 105 points 2 months ago

Obviously....

Someone was posting literal propaganda the other day (MBFC legit outright said it was a propaganda source) that said hostages had bullet fragments "in and near" them. Then jumped to the conclusion that Hamas shot them immediately before the raid because they knew IDF was mighty and strong or some shit.

Israel has been showing us for almost a year they dont give a single fuck about the hostages, they were always sacrificial lambs. An excuse to flatten the area they were being held so Israel can then move more rightwing Jewish extremists in.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I wouldn’t rely on MBFC to recognize propaganda. Look at the difference between VOA news and Al Jazera.

Fun fact, they’re both government rags. VOA was legally barred from broadcasting where Americans might hear it because it was propaganda. Al Jazera is operated by Qatar.

In any case, Israel has been full of shit since this began. And Americans have bought that hook line and sinker.

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[-] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 91 points 2 months ago

Clearly, this woman is Hamas. /s

More seriously though, Hamas not mistreating her beyond the initial act of kidnapping makes sense. The entire purpose of taking hostages is to use the threat of harm as leverage. So there's incentive to keep them in relatively good condition, because as soon as anything happens to them that leverage is lost. Of course, people don't always remember that, and the whole thing relies on all parties involved at least pretending to act in good faith.

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Any idea why Hamas doesn't execute hostages? Not to sound callous or anything. Just curious if you know if their religion forbids it or something

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 74 points 2 months ago

Because if Hamas executed the hostages, they’d have even less bargaining power than they already do. Unfortunately, Netanyahu doesn’t seem to care much about the hostages anyway.

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

If the hostages are released he'll need a whole new reason to continue bombing!

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

His only reason is that it keeps him in power.

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[-] orrk@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

look the hostages were weak, they don't deserve to live, just like the victims of the holocaust.

don't look at me like that, it was the Israeli Minister of national security that said this shit, can't I go quoting the only democracy in the m.east's government?

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago

That would defeat the whole point of taking hostages in the first place.

Seems they didn't count on Israel being willing to kill hostages.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 26 points 2 months ago

They claim that it does.

A Hamas guard who killed an Israeli hostage acted "in revenge" and against instructions after he heard news that his two children had been killed in an Israeli strike, a spokesperson for the group's armed wing said on Thursday.

"The (Hamas) soldier assigned as a guard acted in a retaliatory manner, against instructions, after he received information that his two children were martyred in one of the massacres conducted by the enemy," Abu Ubaida said on Telegram.

"The incident doesn't represent our ethics and the instructions of our religion in dealing with captives. We will reinforce the instructions," he added.

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

If they wanted to kill the hostages, they would have just killed them instead of taking them hostage. The whole point of a hostage is that it increases your power at the negotiating table. It gives you leverage. The hostage is something to trade in exchange for concessions, or the threat of harm to force the opponent’s cooperation. Neither of those work if the hostage has been killed or harmed, because any bargaining power you would have had from holding them goes right out the window as soon as the hostage is killed.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Because they aren't AQ. They're actually looking to negotiate things.

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

oh no she will probably get fired from her job for saying that

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 24 points 2 months ago

So how many hostages is this that have said Hamas treated them well, it was Israel that hurt them? Because I can think of at least 2 others.

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[-] gadwylie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Can anyone provide a news link to a reputable source to confirm? Not to say I don’t believe it, just “trust but verify” and I’m unsuccessful in verification

[-] Waveform@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-815947

Despite media reporting that she was beaten by Hamas, Argamani went to social media on Friday to say that her words had been taken out of context. She said she was not beaten and her hair was not cut.

"I said, I had cuts all over my head and I was hurt all over my body." Argamani emphasized that her wounds came from the collapse of a building after it was bombed by the IAF.

"As a victim of October 7, I will not allow myself to be victimized once again by the media," she said.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Your account being as new as it is you’ll find that the person who posted only uses specific sources with clear bias.

Not that they’re always wrong but they definitely are pushing a very clear and specific agend.

They also will engage you in bad faith, and being their own “crew” to their posts to drive engagement in the way they want and loudly shout down dissent.

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[-] Potatofish@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Neat, and then what happened? Nothing.

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 14 points 2 months ago

Thank God she was only held against her will and not beaten or mistreated otherwise.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 64 points 2 months ago

14,000 dead Palestinian children wish they could say the same.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

Judging by the estimated - in a study published in Lancet - almost 200,000 Palestinians killed in Gaza in this ongowing attack and until a few montsh ago, and the proportion of under 18 in that population (around 40%), that number is a serious under estimation and the reality is more likely 4 or 5 times more children murdered by Israel than those 14,000.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

My apologies, I just took the first number on Google.

One child is too many.

[-] LadyAutumn 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'd imagine the Palestinians being r*d in detention centers would love to be treated so kindly.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 23 points 2 months ago

If you’re going to censor yourself, it’s critical to account for the right number of letters, or nobody will know what you’re talking about.

Right now, I’m imagining a bunch of Palestinians on skateboards doing tricks and being fucking RAD.

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[-] SoJB@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago

Liberals will, completely unironically, deny genocide and then go to a thread talking about how logically inconsistent conservatives are.

Y’all really don’t have any beliefs or independent thoughts, huh?

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 16 points 2 months ago

You may (or may not) have missed all the massive protests against Netanyahu and the IDF. Whatever. You’re just here to stir the shit anyway.

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[-] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

Clearly the wall that the brave Israeli Air force pilot collapsed was hamas.

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