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[-] Chozo@fedia.io 176 points 6 months ago

I mentioned this in another thread, but this only applies to their "Team Pixel" ambassador program. Those aren't actual reviewers, they're contracted by Google's PR firm, specifically to promote their product line. They're not coming after MKBHD and the likes with this. This is just part of their sponsorship agreement.

Worst case scenario in this situation is a few lifestyle vloggers will stop getting free phones.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 6 months ago

The second half of the article goes into that a bit. Seems like some reviewers were also grouped into that program before, and the terms weren't like this before.

The Verge spoke with other independent reviewers and freelance tech journalists who say that they were grouped into the Team Pixel program for review units in the past. For those in the latter group, the new stipulation is a threat to their integrity and livelihood. Matlock says he’s since quit the Team Pixel program over the new terms.

YouTuber Kevin Nether, who runs The Tech Ninja channel, also says the clause led him to quit the Team Pixel program. “As someone who reviews technology for a living, I work with many brands. To be cornered into using one product — that doesn’t work for me, and that’s nothing I want to participate in.”

Nether echoes that he’s never seen this kind of stipulation in previous Team Pixel surveys. Usually, he says, the survey gauges a creator’s interest in various topics, like sports or fashion, to identify areas for collaboration. In the past, he says he’s made it clear to Team Pixel representatives that outside an obligatory post, he will review the device as normal. Nether also says this exclusivity term is atypical. Usually, when brands demand exclusivity from creators or brand ambassadors, they’ll offer payment, have clear disclosure rules, and have limited timelines.

Either Google changed the focus of the program, or the intent wasn't clear enough in previous years

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 14 points 6 months ago

Either Google changed the focus of the program, or the intent wasn't clear enough in previous years

I dunno, I got invited to it and I read through the application forms, which looked very similar to the ones they're posting screenshots of now. Back when I first looked at it a few years ago, it seemed pretty clear that the whole deal was "we'll give you free phones if you advertise us to your community". The application process focused very heavily on determining what sort of following the applicant has, how receptive they are to calls to action, etc.

As far as I can tell, the only thing that's changed is that Google is saying the quiet part out loud, which I would imagine is because a member likely bad-mouthed the product and raised a stink about getting cut off from the freebies. Not to sound victim-blamey, but if anybody in this programed was disillusioned into thinking it was anything short of "be our unpaid advertising monkeys", then they must not have even taken a cursory glance at the description before signing up.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago

Thank you for sharing that information.

Then it really does seems like some reviewers were just entering the grey zone willingly, to get phones intended for advertisements and used them for reviews anyway.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 12 points 6 months ago

Click bait title for sure.

[-] nebulaone@lemmy.world 100 points 6 months ago

The only reason I am buying Pixel devices is the amazing third party os / rom support (especially GrapheneOS).

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 29 points 6 months ago

Same. I don't care about the camera or AI features, the speakers could be louder, and a few other nitpicks, but it supports GrapheneOS, has a long SW support cycle, and has some great security hardware, so I bought one. I actually kind of prefer my older, crappy Moto phone in some ways, but I'm unwilling to use an insecure device, and ROMs aren't supported (well, I guess I could sign an abusive agreement).

So yeah, Pixel wins for me because of GOS and longer SW support. That's honestly it.

[-] Moah 5 points 6 months ago

You could try the fairphone

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

I could, but I'm in the US, and only the Fairphone 4 seems to be available, and that has limited updates left. I'm also not sold on /e/OS, but it's probably fine.

[-] kelargo@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I'm in the US. I bought the fairphone 5 and it works fine with Mint Mobile, T-Mobile mvno. I got it to replace my LG V20. Both have replaceable batteries.

[-] Krzd@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

~~Fairphone can run GOS just fine btw.~~ eOS is just also "approved" by fairphone themselves

EDIT: no they don't, I was wrong

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Really? It's certainly not supported by GOS, and it seems to be because FairPhone is late on shipping security patches. It would be awesome if they did get support though.

[-] Moah 10 points 6 months ago

Could give the fairphone a try

[-] nebulaone@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Too expensive for the hardware provided in my opinion.

[-] Krzd@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

You definitely pay a premium for repairability and ethics, but IMO it's worth it. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 63 points 6 months ago

The Option to install Graphene OS onto the Pixel do be a very good argument for it.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

GOS is still not for everyone.

edit: less offensive.

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 11 points 6 months ago

So just because my car has the ability to tow a trailer it is bad? The pixel gives everyone that wants to the possibility to install a custom ROM, which is great because not every phone allows this.

[-] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah that's what has put me off getting a new Samsung phone as a free upgrade even though they have better specs. They all have the stupid Snapdragon processors.

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 points 6 months ago

I think next year will be the time when I buy a new phone too and I'm also looking to get a pixel. I will devinetively not buy a new one but maybe a refurbished one.

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[-] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I'll always be distrustful of Google hardware, but yes. I've been considering a Pixel as my next.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 57 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Tech reviews are a corrupt mess and can seldom be trusted, especially reviews by "influencers".

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

Also these days it's all about rushing content and pandering to the lowest common denominator. Though pop tech channels were always this way. I stumbled on Unbox Therapy lately and it's so blatant that it almost feels illegal.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 54 points 6 months ago

Hey Google, this makes me not want a Pixel. I will however accept a large $um to cea$e $haring that $entiment.

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago

Wow those camera bumps look so ugly. They had a nice look in the previous generations

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 9 points 6 months ago

I have the 8 and I find it so frustrating. It makes the phone uncomfortable to hold and pocket

[-] scrion@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Do you use the phone without a protective case? I find that most cases are designed so that the bump is flush with the back of the case.

That being said, I prefer thicker cases like the Otterbox oder Spigen Tough whatever series, so I could see how such a case would be "too much" for someone.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago

Every phone I use a case. And every case I use, any camera is at least slightly recessed to protect the lens.

I've never given the slightest crap about bumps because its going in a case, and the only people I know who don't use a case are the same people walking around with broken screens and lenses.

So I've never understood any review about how a phone looks without a case. That said, I also like 3.5mm jacks, SD cards for expansion, and replaceable batteries. I don't care about shaving 1mm off the thickness, 1/8th of an ounce of weight, or any of that nonsense.

I hate what Steve Jobs has done to technology (and the world, considering what a piece of total garbage he was as a person and how many people idolize that d-bag).

Anyway. /rant.

[-] scrion@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I share all those opinions, so your rant saved me some potential typing in the future.

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[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I hate the bumps. The camera in the 4a/5 generation was fine. Hate the new look and feel but had to upgrade because of security updates and not wanting to custom rom because I value NFC payments too much.

[-] dgriffith@aussie.zone 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I hate the camera bumps. Just make the entire phone the same thickness and - hey! This is crazy, but maybe then you could then add a bit more structural integrity and put a bigger battery and a SD card slot and a headphone jack in there as well.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Honestly, I'd be fine with a less substantial camera and a more substantial battery. The "a" models should have thinner cameras and thicker batteries. Oh, and give the back some texture so I don't drop it; I have a case, so that's not a hard requirement.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago

And There's some dumbass sack of cartilage that thinks we bought these phone because the aesthetic elevated them over the competition when really we bought them despite them not being designed with human hands in mind

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

I would think the camera bar would make holding the phone easier, is that not the case? I have a note 20 ultra and I find cases with horizontal camera cover sliders significantly more comfortable to hold than those that try to make the camera bump less noticeable

[-] Drigo@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago

I really like the camera bar, and definitely makes it easier to hold

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

For me it's not harder to hold, but it does seem to catch on things periodically. I honestly don't care much about the camera, and it taking up so much space is annoying. My old phone was pretty much flush (Moto G Power), and the main reason I went with the Pixel is the longer software support and compatibility with GrapheneOS. If a bumpless phone existed that met those two criteria, I would get that instead of the Pixel.

It's not a deal breaker, but I do find it a little annoying.

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[-] jonne@infosec.pub 2 points 6 months ago

If you use a case like most people do it makes sense.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

Not if it's just a silicone case, it's not thick enough to compensate for the camera hump.

Source: the phone in my hands

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[-] bokherif@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

$1k for a Tensor chip? Hell naw

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago

American Fair phone users, how's your experience?

[-] Ruthalas@infosec.pub 3 points 6 months ago

Currently using a FP4 with success. Using Ting/T-Mobile for service.

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[-] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

Very relevant

Also that whole channel is hilarious

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[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 points 6 months ago

The Option to install Graphene OS onto the Pixel do be a very good argument for it.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Wonder if Mr. Mobile caved too....

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