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[-] enbee 52 points 4 months ago

“He then drove through the intersection before pulling over and getting out of his car.”

Bruh.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 61 points 4 months ago

A friend from college got a job as an ER nurse in a not so nice city I grew up by...

She didn't really explain to anyone who knew the area where she worked, and she didn't tell co-workers she wasn't familiar enough with the area. But like, she was an ER nurse, she knew people were getting shot constantly. But she wanted to seem cool and like she could handle herself.

So like a month in of 3rd shift she's sitting at a red light a few blocks away from the hospital and a sketch all black tinted car flashes their high beams at after pulling up behind.

She doesn't know what to do, so she just sits there in here car.

Luckily it was a cop who then turned his lights on. He assumed the only reason a car would stop at a red light was because the driver fell asleep drunk, and rather than the cop wanting to stop and get out of his vehicle, he was trying to wake a drunk driver up so they'd leave...

TLDR

He told her to never stop at a red light around there. Slow down, look, and then run the red light.

[-] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 31 points 4 months ago

I’ve heard of that in Detroit. My jujitsu instructor told a story of driving through there somewhere and he stopped at a red light. A police officer pulled him over and explained that he would get robbed if he stopped at lights, and that everyone would know he was clueless and from out of town.

[-] poprocks@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Detroit is exactly what came to mind for me as well. Years ago I was driving back from downtown to Ann Arbor and the interchange I needed was closed so I had to exit in the middle of downtown Detroit. It was pre smartphone days and I was lost at night by myself. I stopped at a red and an unhoused person walked into the middle of the road and threw a coke bottle at my car. Luckily it was plastic.

I was terrified that he was going to come closer and attack my car and me. Luckily that's all he did. When I got back, everyone asked me why I stopped at the light and I said it was red. They told me never to stop at a red in Detroit. Wild city.

Edit: spelling

[-] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Ever seen the movie Black Hawk Down? There’s a scene where a convoy of hummvees takes heavy fire while trying to get out of Mogadishu.

Detroit is like Mogadishu. You don’t stop for anything and try not to engage the locals as much as possible.

[-] poprocks@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

It was my first summer driving in a big city and I was there for an internship so want aware of how bad it was - I was also young and afraid to break any rules. Ah to be young and naive.

[-] Zorsith 2 points 4 months ago

I've heard much the same about Cleveland.

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

I lived in Cleveland for a few years, never heard of/seen anything like that there. Some sketchy neighborhoods, yeah, but so bad police advise you not to stop at red lights? nah.

I mean, Ohio cops are the worst, so even if it was the safe thing to do, they'd pull your ass over for running the light, and then leave as a crowd gathered around your car lol

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[-] enbee 6 points 4 months ago
[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

I mean, it's mostly on the city for at least not changing them to flashing red lights after a certain time.

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[-] ravhall@discuss.online 17 points 4 months ago

Not a smart move, but don’t fuck with people. Those teens need to be locked up.

[-] enbee 22 points 4 months ago

yes. they should be tried for beating the man and looting his car.

whole situation was avoidable. who chases down a gang of hyped up teenagers over littering? one of the kids threw a bottle and now this guy has injuries, severe property damage and a bunch of his possessions stolen. he chose to escalate the situation. don’t escalate. move on with your life. especially if you have all your belongings in your car because you’re moving.

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 10 points 4 months ago

There will be no justice. We all need to buy guns.

[-] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I mean yeah but like because of the crazy shit the heritage foundation is saying, not because of random teenagers.

Either way, that dipshit escalated the situation himself, but if he didn't I don't know that I'd call shooting into an angry mob that's trying to beat your ass "justice." Justified maybe, but not justice. That feels like fuel for those weird dudes who jerk off to r/justiceporn.

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 4 points 4 months ago

He got out to yell at some vandals and he got beat. If he could protect himself, the right people would have been punished. The man had his entire life in that car, he was probably not in the best place mentally. Why was that his life? What about him? You seem to be siding with the criminals because the victim wanted to stop a crime.

[-] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm not saying they where right for beating him, I'm saying getting out of your car and escalating things isn't helping anything.

If a mob comes to beat your ass, potentially to death, and you shoot someone to prevent it, yeah that's justified (and probably should be legally), but it isn't justice. You don't get to be fucking Judge Dredd, and act like self-defense puts you on some moral high-ground. You are not a stand-in for the legal system, which in and of itself is already incredibly flawed.

If you left your car and started shouting at them like a fuckwit before doing so, you might not deserve the beat down but you did kind of earn it. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. You're not going to accomplish anything by yelling at that crowd other than painting a target on your back.

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 2 points 4 months ago

I think the stupid game is throwing the bottle.

There are two kinds of people. The ones who blame the bad guy, and the ones who blame the victim for getting mad at the bad guy.

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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He got out to yell at some vandals and he got beat. If he could protect himself, the right people would have been punished.

Just so I understand your position: Are you saying justice is served when a plastic bottle is thrown at a car (which caused zero damage) should result in the bottle thrower and those with the bottle thrower being shot (possibly to death)?

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 2 points 4 months ago

So you understand justice is served when some guy gets out of the car to yell at you, and you and your friends beat him near death and destroy and steal everything he owns?

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[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

If this guy had been armed, he would likely be dead. And some kid would have a new gun.

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[-] enbee 2 points 4 months ago

have you ever handled a firearm?

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 2 points 4 months ago
[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

He escalated by getting out of his car? I agree that was stupid, he should have kept moving and not stopped for lights or stop signs, but it's pretty crazy some cities are at the point where getting out of your vehicle is considered "escalating" and leads to your car being destroyed and being viciously beaten by a group of 40 children.

[-] enbee 2 points 4 months ago

correct. assuming malice from the kids, Mr Uulu got out of the car to confront literal children. this is escalating a trivial incident to a confrontation. over a plastic bottle hitting his car.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I'm just saying it's a sad world when you think the abnormal behavior here is someone getting of their car.

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[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He didn't chase anyone down according to the report. He ran away. Or tried to, anyway.

[-] enbee 3 points 4 months ago

“He then drove through the intersection before pulling over and getting out of his car.” he got out of his car to confront them

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[-] credo@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Olympics 2028 is going to be grand.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It will be just like The Running Man!

Huge mass-produced televised sporting event smack in the middle of an area with riots and roving gangs attacking people!

"Its all about ratings, Ben!" -Damon Killian

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[-] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

to be fair, the kids were on bikes? cars are weapons, and I can see not wanting those in your community. this is the fuckcars activism we need in the world.

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