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Spreading of the 100 biggest Lemmy communities (media.gehirneimer.de)

submitted 11 months ago by BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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The biggest surprise for me was the https://hexbear.net count, an instance I hardly interact with.

	Community Count	Community Subscriber Count
beehaw.org	6	133450
hexbear.net	33	663204
lemdro.id	1	17052
lemmy.blahaj.zone	1	15907
lemmy.dbzer0.com	1	53006
lemmy.ml	14	356460
lemmy.one	1	16257
lemmy.world	39	851950
lemmynsfw.com	2	33586
sh.itjust.works	1	16006
sopuli.xyz	1	14093

The data this is based on comes from https://lemmyverse.net where you can just download a full json of the data they have (I excluded all communities marked as "suspicious")

EDIT: The data if you sort by active users last month:

	Community Count	Community Active Month Count
awful.systems	1	2616
feddit.org	2	7363
feddit.uk	2	5289
hexbear.net	1	2952
lemdro.id	1	2898
lemm.ee	3	8898
lemmy.blahaj.zone	1	11422
lemmy.ca	3	14910
lemmy.dbzer0.com	3	13752
lemmy.ml	10	54949
lemmy.world	57	338384
lemmy.wtf	1	3602
lemmy.zip	3	12020
mander.xyz	1	11469
sh.itjust.works	5	37365
slrpnk.net	3	10897
sopuli.xyz	2	10070
ttrpg.network	1	4107

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[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 132 points 11 months ago

I knew hexbear was big but not that big

[-] BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de 29 points 11 months ago

My guess is that they just needed to have their own community for a lot of stuff because so many instances are defederated from them. Though I am not sure...

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 11 months ago

Or because it's older than most of the other instances

[-] aasatru@kbin.earth 27 points 11 months ago

I guess it's also natural that subcultures that tend to be banned elsewhere are early adaptors of alternative platforms.

We're lucky we didn't exist when the Trump extremists on Reddit went looking for a new home, or they would probably have been one of the biggest fields in this figure. Hopefully when the right wing extremists arrive instance admins will have the good sense to defederate.

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[-] FundMECFSResearch 20 points 11 months ago

They’ve existed for a while. A lot of subscribers are inactive users. Kind of like reddit where a sub can have 5k people and still be inactive.

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[-] wiki_me@lemmy.ml 99 points 11 months ago

Active users is the standard metric used to check how much a service is used (at least as far as i know. its what i see when i look at stuff published for investors).

hexbar is on the sixth place in term of number of active users with 1.8K , lemmy.world is 18K (enable the "active users" column and sort by it to see the full list)

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 75 points 11 months ago

Always nice to see lemmynsfw doing well. Those guys are going to bring a lot of people here

[-] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 53 points 11 months ago

I couldn't imagine being a moderator there, the amount of shit they must see uploaded has to be enormous. This would apply to every media-oriented instance but due to their nature I am guessing it's worse

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[-] Ategon@programming.dev 50 points 11 months ago

Surprised I dont see programming.dev in the data, we definitely have at least 3 communities in the top 100 (programmer_humor, programming, linux)

[-] Ategon@programming.dev 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Manually counted communities in the top 100 per instance and threw it into another pie chart (for active users / month)

This also seems to be different than the results gotten from lemmyverse as the lemmyverse data hasnt been updated in 11 days according to that site

A bunch of instances gained or lost some coms in the top 100 from variance of things happening in the last week

(the eight instances that it decided to not give labels to that have 1 community are feddit.uk, lemmy.zip, beehaw.org, lemdro.id, ttrpg.network, lemmy.wtf, lemmy.blahaj.zone, mander.xyz)

edit: updated graph to be more accurate users/month counts

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[-] BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de 36 points 11 months ago

And here the diagram by community subscriber count:

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 22 points 11 months ago

Could you please do it based on monthly active users?

[-] BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de 20 points 11 months ago

Oh that would be interesting as well. I will do that. Checking back in 2h :D

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[-] cron@feddit.org 32 points 11 months ago

I think subscriber count is probably not ideal. I've seen communities where the number subscribers is 10x the number of active monthly users.

For other communities, subscribers is about equal to active users.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 31 points 11 months ago

Based on Monthly active users, the picture is different: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active_month

You already see a 4 sh.itjust.works community, a lemmy.ca community, a lemmy.zip community just from the top 30

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

I might as well leave lemmy.world

I'm only concerned about how to transfer all my stuff to the new account. Mastodon makes it super easy.

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[-] Moghul@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Jesus Christ, that's a lot of weirdos.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 11 months ago

You didn't use a black color for us? Heresy!

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[-] jay@mbin.zerojay.com 27 points 11 months ago

Probably unintended side-effect of this post: A few people like me discovering new communities to follow. Thank you!

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

anyone have any guesses as to why lemmy.world is so big? Scale/size advantage? Reliability advantage? Name recognition? What do we think is the culprit here.

And whilst i'm here, anybody want to explain the source of lemmy.ml to me? I only know it as the instance where mad people yell at me from lol.

perhaps a more "ambiguous" federation system would be better. having community instances is nice and all, but having one literally just be lemmy.world seems a little bit antithetical to me.

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

Lemmy.world has kept open signups open during every large Reddit exodus while many others didn't. It's also decently reliable, has decent moderation and is well known. The reason why people didn't move after is probably because instance migration on Lemmy isn't possible* so they just stick with what they use.

*Yes I don't consider exporting/importing followed communities a migration

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Open signups is the biggest reason. Pretty much every other instance wanted you to jump through hoops to sign up with them.

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[-] Eiri@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

I heard what lemmy is. I googled Lemmy. I downloaded an app. I pressed sign up. I ended up on Lemmy.world.

I'll be honest I don't even really understand what different instances do.

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[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I bounced between a few instances and .world seemed to always be up and available. Not to mention all the communities on .world.

I don't have an allegiance. Open more communities in other instances or migrate the .world ones there.

I just want to post.

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[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 25 points 11 months ago

Poor lemm.ee

[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.ml 24 points 11 months ago

It's very funny that despite most of you hating hexbear so much, they are still one of the biggest.

[-] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago

Turns out Blue MAGA can't suppress the left. Sad face.

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[-] NostraDavid@programming.dev 23 points 11 months ago

Programming.dev represent! o7

[-] FundMECFSResearch 19 points 11 months ago

suprised mander.xyz is so small

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 18 points 11 months ago

!science_memes@mander.xyz is the 9th most monthly active community

https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active_month

[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 19 points 11 months ago

Surprised to see my small instance mentioned here 😅

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[-] recursive_recursion@programming.dev 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A barchart might be better as the comparison of instances with the most subscribed accounts doesn't mean much I feel

we have some users that register but are inactive and/or are infrequently active which could be a sign of lurkers or bots but empty accounts don't mean much when it comes to the health of an instance.

However; if we look at each community's active monthly and daily users it can tell another story and that data compared against Reddit's could be useful for anyone seeking alternatives

I'm rambling with little sleep but hopefully what I've said make a little bit of sense

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[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

Duplicate instances are a problem imho. You can see the network effect synergy working by how many communities flock to the biggest instance lemmy.world.

There also need to be tools to merge two communities on separate instances, or move them.

Two of my niche instances tried to leave reddit, but then there were two versions, one on .ml and one on .world. Confusing. Maybe there need to be reviews for communities or instances.

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