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[-] gnutrino@programming.dev 87 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Man, China must be watching this shitshow, looking at Outer Manchuria and wondering what exactly Russia could do about it at this point if they decided to reverse the Treaty of Aigun...

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

The only response is nukes

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A nuclear power just had its sovereignty “violated.”

Nukes didn’t fly.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 18 points 2 months ago

And this is why nuclear powers don't start stupid wars of conquest, because if they fail (normally they fail), "nukes fly".

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago
[-] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

That's just the thing: No one knows, not even the Russians.
Which is why they won't launch them. Cause that could lead to a worse outcome for Putin than total annihilation - public embarassment.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 61 points 2 months ago

We'll let them take Palin as a snack if they're still hungry after annexing Green Ukraine

[-] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago

Is there anything between the Urals and Alaska that would slow down an invading army? Other than the lack of infrastructure.

[-] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 60 points 2 months ago

Just like everything. Forests, swamps, rivers, extreme weather. There's a reason people don't live in that part of the world

[-] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I'd slightly categorize that under "lack of infrastructure". Taiga covers 12% of Earth's land area and is difficult to travel in. 25% of Earth's land area is mountainous, 33% desert, 7% rainforest...

[-] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Well that, and the politics.

[-] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 months ago

Vast marshes that are impassable for vehicles when they're not frozen, I think?

[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 months ago

Yes. Putin has been acting like global warming will unlock more Russian land for production. Turns out the permafrost areas are such because they were mostly giant bogs before freezing.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago

The explosions of Methane as it thaws is interesting and worrying. Definitely not a place that people are going to want to live in even when warmer.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 7 points 2 months ago

Oh noes, 🦟 biolab swarms!1!!

[-] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

Freeze the vehicles, then.

[-] Xtallll 28 points 2 months ago
[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago

Well there's the Bering Sea.

[-] plactagonic@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 months ago

No, just look in to history they have lost control of it 1918-1920.

As my friend says "I will join army only if I can ride trains through Siberia and shoot ruzzians, as my grandfather."

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

Mud, forest, rivers, lack of roads.

Plus an absolute shit ton of skeeters

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

Hope their spy agency set up a colab government or they will have to actually push that far.

[-] Goldholz 18 points 2 months ago

Well there is the russian freedom army or what its called.

You know, white blue white. Those guys

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

So then Ukraine can puppet easier in the peace deal??

[-] Goldholz 9 points 2 months ago

They probably wont puppet, but government change and take their core states back

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Could demand resource rights and take the navy if they play it right. We all know russia will not be able to rebuild it.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago

Mineral rights would be extremely valuable, but not even the Elbonian navy would take Russian nave vessels for anything but as practice targets........

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Sell them for scrap just like Pepsi. But mainly just to get rid of them.

[-] Goldholz 10 points 2 months ago

What navy? HA!

I in full honestly, would ukraine actually defeat russia hoi4 style we should supervise their democracy like they did with west germany post ww2

[-] zerosignal@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

What navy? HA!

They recently transferred a lot of their ships to the submarine fleet

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Battlefield conversions

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

Put the Nazis back in charge?

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

The Freedom of Russia Legion is what you're thinking of.

[-] Goldholz 2 points 2 months ago
[-] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 months ago

https://sh.itjust.works/u/LearnedDonkey@kbin.earth permanently banned, not for being a tankie, but for weird ass, bot-like responses. If you see a suspected bot, don't feed it, [like I did], just report it. TIA morons

[-] generaldenmark@programming.dev 11 points 2 months ago

Thank you for your work 💚

[-] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

👍 Chuck Norris-style, weary thumbs-up

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago
[-] aquinteros@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

what a moron that dude

They were posting similar bait in other communities and have been site-banned on SJW.
Then again, I'm sure in their head that's still their idea of winning somehow.

[-] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Loneliness is a hell of a drug.

[-] LearnedDonkey@kbin.earth 4 points 2 months ago

Do people in this community actually think Ukraine is winning?

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 28 points 2 months ago

Until very recently, I'd have called it a stalemate. I don't think any side can be described as "winning" right now.

[-] auzy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

It's hard to know..

But don't forget that Russia thought they'd seize Ukraine quickly. They haven't. Even if they "win", it will be a shit show and they won't be able to keep it

I also have a Russian coworker who joined the Company after the war and he was embarrassed about Russia. I seriously doubt most of their soldiers are motivated to fight

[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Don’t listen to them.

political propaganda is extremely effective and it’s impossible to make out the from the noise.

Near as I can tell Ukraine was losing fairly badly and the invasion was a last ditch effort that nobody wanted, although they are still backed by NATO and they won’t lose until they let them but Russia has an almost endless supply of Troops and equipment so they will lose eventually unless the war gets too embarrassing or it risks going Nuclear.

[-] wanderingmagus@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

As a US SSBN submariner - bring it. Give me one good reason to set 1SQ and let these birds fly. I dare you.

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