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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 107 points 3 months ago

For a second I thought that the first field was:

IRL nickname: I don't use IRL

[-] desktop_user 23 points 3 months ago

Nobody should use IRL, it sucks and is way too humid.

[-] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Floridean detected

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 63 points 3 months ago

h--how did you manage that

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago
[-] ipha@lemm.ee 70 points 3 months ago

This is a rather old form and in its early days btrfs was not very stable.

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago

People don't know how CoW FSes work 🤷.

[-] SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago

My only gripe with btrfs is that I've had systems come down from a single drive failure in raid quite "often" when compared to other FS.

ZFS is a ram hog but I always could do a live resilvering without downtime.

[-] hersh@literature.cafe 2 points 3 months ago
[-] SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

It is true for raid 5 & 6. Raid 0, 1, and 10 are supposed to be production ready. I use raid 10 only with btrfs, anything else and I use zfs or mdadm.

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[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

You have to avoid the raid types is lists as not ready. Looks like facebook uses btrfs without issues

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

Raid 1 is stable. The problem is that btrfs has performance issues with resilvering a large amount of data. That isn't something that can be fixed as it is a design flaw.

Maybe bcachfs will be production ready at some point

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago

Nothing these days

[-] felsiq@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago

I don’t think I’d call it anything wrong, but the subvolumes definitely do make it different for installation purposes so that following ext4 instructions for bootloader configs or kernel arguments could put you on the wrong path

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 months ago

Fucking Allan, always fucking shit up.

[-] ignotum@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I liked using Arch, but i got tired of Allan breaking into my house and bricking my computers all the time, so i ended up switching

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

All we wanted was some detail.

[-] allan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago
[-] peanutyam@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

That’s funny and sadly accurate 🤣

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago

Please return completed form to /dev/null in order for your fuck-up to be assessed by a professional.

Lol

[-] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 months ago
[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 months ago

I asked for the source, we'll see if we get it 😁.

[-] v7x@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago
[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Thank you kind stranger 😊.

[-] MHanak@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago
[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ah, this is even better, I could actually edit it as vector 😊.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago
  1. lol
  2. My rootfs has been btrfs up to 2 days ago, when I switched back to TKFS (The King File System, AKA ext4) because I realized I have no use for the features of BTRFS.
[-] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 5 points 3 months ago

What is the problem with using BTRFS for rootfs?

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago

I think that this form is actually old, from when BTRFS was quite unstable. That point on the list made me chuckle.

[-] cheet@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago

It tends to break when you force power off the machine in my experience, where ext4 is super resilient to that kind of stuff.

Thats my experience at least.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

Ext4 can't detect data corruption while btrfs can. Btrfs has only bee stable for a handful of years now. It had way to many early adopters that were burned

[-] MicrondeMMMMMMM 11 points 3 months ago

Pacman -Syyu when you're feeling extra desperate XD

[-] MrMobius@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago

I get the feeling. I had a fuck-up directory with solutions for my failed android rooting efforts. I tried to flash my phone with a random recovery image I found in an old FAQ section.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 9 points 3 months ago

I've been trying to decide what distro I want to go with for my desktop (Microsoft recently pushed copilot onto my windows 10). While I like the idea of Arch (fast, lightweight) and the fact that it'd be fully compatible with whatever I get on my steam deck, stuff like this makes me think a Debian-based distro would be better.

(That and the fact that most Linux stuff is designed for Debian and I don't have enough experience to try and rebuild Debian stuff for Arch)

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 14 points 3 months ago

The Deck is configured by Valve in a way uniquely suited to it, and they also make sure it works properly. It's not going to be the same on vanilla Arch installed by you on your own PC.

Common wisdom for a beginner is to use something like Debian or Debian-based like Mint or Ubuntu because they're popular and stable so you can get a safe start. I wouldn't recommend Arch or Arch-based to a complete beginner.

[-] Kyatto@leminal.space 14 points 3 months ago

The aur usually has what I need, only have had to manually build once... Before I found the aur package. Endeavoros is a good easy way to get into arch if you are worried about the manual configuration.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 2 points 3 months ago

Alright, cool. Why not Manjaro? I did a quick Google search and saw people saying Manjaro is bloated in comparison to EndevorOS, are there other reasons as well?

[-] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 months ago

Yeah, they like forgot to reupload a new cert 3 times.

And they hold packages back. EndeavourOS uses Arch's repos directly, whereas Manjaro has it's own repos. EndeavourOS is just Arch with a GUI installer and some handy prepicked choices, like a DE.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 2 points 3 months ago
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[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 7 points 3 months ago

There are three distros derived from Arch that try to do very different things:

  • Endeavour is Arch with a friendly installer. That's it. It will install faster but then you'll be using Arch, and that's not a good idea for a beginner.
  • Garuda is also Arch but with a few more helpful tools and apps. Same reasoning as above.
  • Manjaro uses Arch packages as an upstream source (like Ubuntu vs Debian) but does things to them to make it stable. Which, unfortunately, makes a certain kind of Arch fan foam at the mouth and you've probably already been linked to "manjarno" and similar idiocy. So you'd have to deal with that.

But seriously, I have mixed feelings recommending Manjaro to a beginner. The distro itself is super-stable and easy to use because you basically have to do nothing. I have non-computer savvy family members on Manjaro without admin privileges and it works perfectly.

But the trick is that doing nothing part. You have to leave it alone and not modify the way it works, and beginners often feel the need to tinker with the system.. Not only that but it's hard as a beginner to figure out online what's generic Arch advice and what's Manjaro-specific and which of that can be applied safely on Manjaro and which is an Arch-ism that will ruin your install.

If you're set on trying Manjaro I can offer a list of recommendations to give you an idea of how to navigate the dos and donts.

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[-] felsiq@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago

Honestly I’ve found the opposite of what you said, where on Debian based distros I commonly had to go to a project’s git repo and follow readme instructions to build when it wasn’t in an apt repository. Meanwhile on arch, the only thing you have to install manually is yay and then afterwards everything is in the AUR. Not saying that makes arch more user friendly than Debian (obviously), but that one aspect I do actually find easier on arch at least if you’re willing to use an AUR helper.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's mostly game-related tools that I've discovered typically have Debian versions but no apparent (official) Arch support. Seems like most people who develop modding tools, save editors, stuff like that, mainly use windows and if you're lucky will have a Mac and maybe Debian version

Edit: the windows binaries aren't a huge issue, they usually work in Wine just fine; I just prefer not having to use wine.

[-] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I use mint. Everything works without too much fuss. Certainly easier than dealing with an endless stream of corpo shenanigans. It works quicker than windows ever did.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 7 points 3 months ago

Oh and another point: on Debian every package you get is Debian. On Arch the stuff in AUR is not Arch and is not supported by Arch, it's unstable experimental stuff and you take your chances with it.

In practice, generally, the AUR stuff trends to mostly work fine but it's never guaranteed. It can and it does break spontaneously from time to time.

This applies to ALL Arch-based distros. So if you plan on counting on AUR to supplement your app needs, please reconsider.

Debian stable has ~100k stable packages included. Arch has ~15k bleeding edge packages included and ~80k "varies wildly" in the AUR. It will not be the same experience.

Debian with Steam and other popular desktop apps (like LibreOffice and Firefox) installed from Flatpak will be a much more reliable experience.

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[-] kuneho@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Debian is nice.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago
[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

There's always Fedora as well

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