Eh, there's one additional way we can stop them. A landslide victory that puts her massively over the electoral college threshold would make a handful of compromised counties completely irrelevant.
I do think this is the only way. It's not 270towin this year, we need a margin.
Most people in America can’t do anything about that though. Only the people in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada, and Arizona.
Nah. Even if you are in a safe state, vote. Even if you are in a state run by weirdos, vote. Literally vote.
It worked in 2020. trump had more votes than in 2016 and he lost by even more. January 6th had no chance of success because it was obvious who won. Taking the capitol building doesn't mean anything.
The supreme court doesn't even mean anything without the consent of the governed. The British won the War of 1812 and literally burned the White House to the ground. They still had to leave because the US is so big that it's literally ungovernable without consent of the population.
That's not in the cards given the last 4 years. Remember we only won in the wake of a mass uprising, with most people thinking they were voting to defund the police, defend Roe, free healthcare, less war, legalization of pot, freeing the concentration camps on the border, etc.
We'll be lucky if Trump's campaign shitting itself and Biden dropping out are enough to compensate for the last 4 years of either inaction or making things worse.
I don't think people voted for Joe Biden for those reasons. Except maybe defend Roe.
No shit. They've only been saying it for years.
Watching Trump's press conference from Mar-a-lago the other day, and hearing his excuses for why he isn't out on the road campaigning, it struck me that the narrative that he's moping around depressed that he's losing isn't the whole story.
He's got Vance out pretending to campaign, while he and his buddies are sitting around coming up with plan B. He's probably had calls with dozens of Republican governors and is getting teams of "alternate electors" together (the Stephen Miller interview on Ari Melber's show made it pretty clear that they still see that as a perfectly legal strategy). Donald may know "it's over" but that just means he's going to get more desperate and we've already seen what desperate Trump can do with 2 months of prep, I'm not looking forward to seeing what he can do with 5 months.
I live in a mail in ballot state but I think people -especially in swing states with trump election officials- should call in sick to work on election day. Get some friends and be election observers. If you watch everything you'll at least catch them in the act of whatever they're planning. Bring water with you and help out. Even kids that can't vote can do some things to help. Be an election volunteer if you can.
Vance
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My crackpot theory is that he doesn't actually want to win. I think he's making so much money campaigning that he realized he could milk a couple more election cycles until the dummies get tired of him.
Nah. You're describing the DNC. The charges DJT is facing are real. He needs the immunity and the ability to shut down the prosecutions. Not to mention how much MORE grift is available for a sitting president.
Chaos is just the first part of their plan. The whole purpose is for generating lawsuits that make their way to the Supreme Court.
The weirdo Republican's entire plan is to have the SC hand the dictatorship to Trump, irrespective of the Electoral results. Harris could win Texas and be over 300 Electoral votes and the SC will still hand it to Trump.
Do you really think those 6 idiots handed the office of the President immunity? HAH! They handed TRUMP immunity. They absolutely will NOT see a Democrat with that immunity in the Presidency after the election.
It has to stay out of the Supreme Court's claws. At this point, I really don't see how it WON'T end up at the SC.
Exactly. Reminder for those who still don't fully appreciate the scope of the problem: fully one third of SCOTUS were lawyers for Bush in Bush v. Gore. This is their endgame and their purpose: invalidating the vote to coronate a Republican dictator is what they were put on the court to do.
I would hope that a blatantly corrupt ruling by the Supreme Court that hands power to Trump would be enough to get Biden to just disregard their ruling as illegal, put down the coup attempt and arrest anyone found to have been conspiring to overthrow the government. It would be horrible for it to get to that point, but in that nightmare scenario it would be the least bad option.
If the Court blatantly rejects a valid election and throws their support behind a coup attempt, they will have already abandoned the institutional norms that the system relies on in order to function. Going along with it would only do more damage. The only way to repair the damage at that point is by stopping the plot, preserving the proper outcome of the election and removing insurrectionists from positions of power.
OMG... I so completely agree with you and that terrifies me.
If the Supreme Court throws out a legitimate win by Harris, then they need to be removed and tried for treason. Because that is EXACTLY what it would be.
Alternative Headline: "Conservatives Fuck Around, Insist on Finding Out"
Defeat Trump soundly. As soon as election officials refuse to certify, slap them in jail and charge them with serious crimes IMMEDIATELY instead of fucking around for 4 goddamn years like the last time. Long prison terms and huge fines, or preferably, extraordinary rendition to Afghanistan and revoke their passport.
Biden can seal-team-6 them.
He's pretty well committed to not doing that, and it's very much unclear to me if the military would actually go ahead with following that kind of order.
It's too late to "get ready". They aren't planning to win with votes.
It's a good thing then that the sitting VP is bestowed the power to unilaterally decide who wins the presidency.
If we get that far. The voters have to make it past Local Sheriffs on the ground.
There's also a Coalition of Right Wing Sheriffs wandering around somewhere.
This is why you should track your local fascists! Check out https://magatmap.com and help out!
EDIT - I'm curious why the down voting.
Lol the maga map could use the same format as the Christian surveillance app that they use to harass people..
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If you think your county or state won't certify election results, make sure to call them and tell them exactly how you feel about it.
This is actually fine. Let them do it. They won't change anything, but they will look silly and the entire world will see it.
There's something of a history of racist groups overthrowing elections in the US.
So we setup police on certification day to arrest anyone working the polls who breaks the laws concerning transition of power.
Simple as.
There's a higher percentage of police in the MAGAt crowd than the general populous. I'm not sure that's the best idea.
If electors can be compromised, so can police though.
No surprise for most of us here. The big surprise for the enablers would be when the leopards eat their faces.
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