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[-] eksb@programming.dev 106 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How much AI do you want in your browser:

( ) None

( ) Zero

( ) I want my browser to automatically close any page that mentions AI

[-] Thann@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 months ago

Which of these options do you prefer:

( ) having an AI assistant integrated into the browser

( ) getting kicked in the balls by elon musk

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

A genuinely tough decision

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 13 points 2 months ago

hi we're the marketing team and we already decided what we want to do, and we can make up whatever data you want to see for us to justify it!

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

More like

  • 2x slower browser

  • AI

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[-] carotte 63 points 2 months ago

i don’t like how they used "want least", it means three very different things:

  • i want this but it’s not the thing i want the most
  • i don’t care for this
  • oh god fuck no
[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago

That's why they did it in sets of three. They could just give every user a blank text box for every option, but doing it this way makes it far easier to analyze the data in bulk.

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[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 51 points 2 months ago

Which of the following attributes would you most want your new browser to have, and which would you want least?

Twice as slow as your current browser

Is that a joke?

[-] Liome@pawb.social 46 points 2 months ago

Control question probably, to check if you actually read the questions.

[-] mke@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I forgot those exist and interpreted it as "Would you sacrifice performance for one of these features?"

Am I stupid?

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[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 8 points 2 months ago

Makes sense. What about those who click that option as a joke? Maybe discount all other replies from that person because of that too?

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

I mean, fair?

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[-] Tacoma@feddit.org 19 points 2 months ago

For me that was together with

A privacy-respecting AI assistant that makes your browser smarter by learning how you use it

So I don't really care how slow the browser is, as long as it doesn't have an AI "assistant" that is monitoring my browser usage

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[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 33 points 2 months ago

Everyone's here complaining about the randomised questions when I'm just curious why location options are "Germany", " Brazil", "USA", or " Somewhere we don't care about".

[-] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 10 points 2 months ago

Yeah wtf going on there, what's Germany, Brazil and USA got the rest of us don't?

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 months ago

Those are simply the most significant Firefox user bases.

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[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 2 months ago

You folks are really exaggerating. How is this survey weird? The random questions in groups of 3 make it easy to compare 3 features instead of rating 60 different features by most wanted to least wanted. In aggregate from thousands of replies, they can sort all answers.

[-] kill_dash_nine@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

I feel like most of these people were way over analyzing the questions. No reason to look for in depth meaning of possible answers, just answer them and take them at face value.

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[-] anothermember@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 months ago

This is one of the weirder surveys I've ever taken, I hope they know what they're doing.

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[-] pop@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago

Do they publish any of the data from these surveys or use it as an excuse to remove more useful features?

"We listen to our community, so now we're removing about: config access from stable desktop builds to match the mobile version to provide uniform builds, making problems easier to replicate and also provide better security for all. Please use beta or nightly builds for tinkering."

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

"We found that users wanted AI over a 2x slower browser"

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[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 22 points 2 months ago

Bring back PWA!!

Sadly, they're probably thinking mobile.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah, some of these questions made more sense for mobile than desktop. For example, I want to split tabs on desktop, but I don't on mobile. Likewise, I don't really care about PWAs on mobile (there's usually an app with a better experience), but I do care on desktop because that isn't a thing on my system (Linux).

I think it would've been better had they broken them into groups for mobile and desktop.

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[-] sudo42@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

When looking for a new web browser, which feature would you prefer most and which would you prefer least?

  • A color palette that matches Danny DeVito's armpit hair.
  • Play the theme to Annie at startup.
  • Take up all computer resources.

I don't want any of those. Can't we just have a browser that filters all of the popups, junk and advertising?

Nope. You can't progress through the survey without picking one thing you really don't want and at least one of two things you couldn't give a shit less about.

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago
[-] ryper@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

They needed to have something that might be less appealing than an AI assistant

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[-] give@phuu.uk 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

@neme loaded questions are loaded.

The "Want most" to "Want least" scale is loaded AF.

Where is the option for "I don't want any of these things"?

Edit: Yeah, fuck that. That survey is bullshit. I stopped bothering to give answers due to the multi-choice questions seeming like a way for Mozilla to have a wank about itself.

[-] Vincent@feddit.nl 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is fairly standard survey design, I believe. They're not looking to know which features are wanted in general; they want to know their relative popularity. The sets you're presented are randomised (i.e. we don't all get to see the same sets), which allows them to get a ranked list of lots of potential features, while only having to run ten survey questions per participant.

If you get a set with three features that everyone likes or dislikes at about the same level, then it doesn't really matter want you answer: they'll all end up at the top or bottom of the list, respectively. Because each of those options also get presented as part of different sets to different users, where different answers can win out.

[-] prongs@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago

You're bang on. It's called MaxDiff. I use it frequently in my line of work to prioritise product or service messaging with panel data. It's better in some cases to use Inferred preference rather than stated, but generally good to keep the options comparable in "size" of offer.

I would never interpret a MaxDiff model low end result as "wow, 5% of people want slower browsers." Instead I'm focusing on the top cluster. As with any model, they're only ever so accurate. Don't read into the questions too much.

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 7 points 2 months ago

The problem with this design is, if people do not care, then they will give random answers, if they don't have the option to not care. Also this would be important information for Mozilla too, if many people do not care about a specific question. So I feel like they should have done that. But, who am I...

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[-] heavyboots@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I hope like hell the sets of questions were randomized, because if they weren't, they were tweaked by the surveyors beforehand to try and force a particular result.

Like the AI question was paired with some incredibly crappy options like "A browser that runs 2x slower than your current browser". Obviously they want you to click that option as least wanted and leave the AI development alone (if that wasn't a randomized grouping).

Similarly, it looked like they were trying to decide which feature to sacrifice in support of AI dev in later questions, because all 3 would be things I enjoy much more than AI, but I have to rate one as least wanted.

EDIT: OK, thanks for all the responses everyone! Looks like my pairing of AI and 2x slower was just a bad random selection inducing extreme paranoia on my part. Very happy to hear that.

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago

They were randomized.
For me '2x slower' was not paired with any AI.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 months ago

My 2x slower was paired with the 2x faster 🤣 guess which one I chose?

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[-] nawordar@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago

Yes, I want the most for Firefox to be twice as slow as my current browser (Firefox/Fennec)

[-] kbal@fedia.io 13 points 2 months ago

All those features, and the only one I want is customizable hotkeys. Although I guess I'd also take "browser is twice as fast."

[-] Thann@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

Which do you prefer:

( ) browser twice as fast

( ) women find you irresistible

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 months ago

( x) browser twice as fast

( ) women find you irresistible

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[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I took the survey and I didn't like how they occasionally put all shitty features in a group and I had to pick one I wanted and then followed it with all good stuff in a group and I had to say I didn't want one.

[-] kshade@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Things I want from Firefox/Mozilla, in no particular order:

  • Just hire the uBlock Origin guy, Chrome doesn't want him
  • Dissolve the Mozilla Corporation, start a Patreon or whatever
  • Foxkeh plushie

I am willing to compromise on the "unreasonable" ones 🦊

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

This the most blizzare survey I have ever seen. What is even happening?

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Bizarre survey yeah but also why is there a mandatory exact age question at the end? Isn't it normal to be able to opt out of demographic questions for surveys? It also lets us say we'd prefer not to say our gender but not our exact year of birth?

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