Harris should refuse Fox because they have claimed in court to be an entertainment channel and not a news organization. If she does use her ABC time she should post that on a giant screen behind her podium.
She should agree to Fox if:
It takes place after ABC (so Trump doesn't bail)
Fox airs an explanation, immediately before and after the debate, for the $750 million+ settlement concerning the Big Lie.
Considering how quick they are to point out that Biden legitimately won the 2020 election now that they had to pay out, Harris should hammer the point that Biden won in 2020 to poke the bear that is Trump. We'll see if Fox is willing to be sued again and not call him on it or cut him off.
This is a very good point. If she ever ends up on Fox (hope not), it would be negligent not to use this attack. T**** lost, and he still can't admit this basic, important fact. A fact his lawyers, all around the country, could not escape, in even the most friendly jurisdiction. Some of them are now disbarred because of this. Fox News paid an incredible sum (and lost Cucker) because of this.
And continuously scrolling on the bottom during the while thing.
Read article that she refused and told Trump he needs to stick to the debate he already agreed to on a prime time channel. Not all of us have cable but lots of people can pick up ABC. She said she be there whether he is or not.
Whether
I think you mean "broadcast channel" and yes I wholeheartedly agree.
They have already responded. Flat out said stop playing games and show up on the 10th or I'll use that prime time spot on my own. Perfectly executed.
She already is sticking to the scheduled debate that will be next week and starting that they can schedule additional ones. The whole Fox News stunt likely is an attempt to avoid debate at all.
The scheduled debate is Sep 10, not next week
Ah, my bad.
To be clear Fox has never argued that their entire network is entertainment and not news. They have made that distinction between what they call opinion shows like Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity's old shows and their actual news segments. Fox does produce a legitimate news broadcast that is considerably less biased and inflammatory than those opinion shows. Unfortunately that broadcast is not nearly as popular as the garbage shows they've had to make the arguments you're referencing about.
I don't give a flying fuck about the bullshit excuses of lying propagandists. And no, their "news" segments are not "legitimate:" the fact that they're "considerably less biased" than the rest of it is just damning with faint praise. The "news" segments may not tell outright lies like the talking-head shows do, but they damn well lie by omission in terms of which stories they choose to cover and who they choose to quote.
I don't think anything I said could be considered praise of Fox News. It's simply more factual and measured than the profanity laden emotional outburst you chose to go with. Fox can suck a whole bag of dicks for all I care, I just think it's important to have your facts straight. After all, not doing so is exactly why most of us have a problem with Fox to begin with.
I just think it’s important to have your facts straight.
Then why didn't you? The fact is that even what they call "news" is still extremely biased. The fact that it's "less" so, compared to commentary shows that are so far off the deep end that I'd have to invent new superlatives to adequately express how biased they are, does not change its position on an absolute bias scale.
You called that shit "legitimate," and that just isn't true.
Are you really getting your panties in a bunch because I'm not agreeing with you hard enough? Or is it that you'd rather virtue signal than acknowledge facts? The main takeaway of what I originally said is that Fox has never said in court that their news segments are entertainment that has no obligation to stick to the truth. The person I responded to made that claim and it is factually incorrect. That argument only applies to what they call their opinion segments. If you take issue with that then you're ignorant of the facts and that's all there is to it.
If you want to interpret the rest of what I said as an endorsement of the quality of their news segments then that's your own business. Those were clearly relative statements which you are choosing to be intentionally obtuse about so please take this opportunity to take the rest of your unnecessarily hostile comments with you when you fuck off.
Eh, I'd debate the word 'considerably'.
Less blatant bias? Yes. Still biased AF? Also yes.
Not entire network of shows is entertainment there's the 2 hours a day when they give their preferred hosts a break. I don't really know the hours spent on actual news but I have the impression it's in low single digit hours. I also assume they put more emphasis on right wing topics during those times, as factual as they may be rather than a balanced news source. If I'm wrong I'll gladly be corrected since I don't really watch broadcast TV anyways (corrected typo)
Trump is a weird, scared, old man. He belongs in the dementia ward of a nursing home, not on the campaign trail. If conservatives were capable of shame they’d realize how embarrassing nominating this doddering old weirdo for the Presidency truly is.
Edit: anyone trying to claim he’s not demented gets blocked. I have no patience for that bullshit.
The racist rapist is a total pussy.
I agree with the sentiment here but trump doesn't belong in a dementia ward. He does not have dementia, anyone watching him speak / interact with people can tell. It also diminishes his roll in all the absolutely terrible shit he does / spews everyday. Make him take full responsibility for his actions, dont blame even a second of it on dementia..its not fair to folks / families who have gone thru that disease.
Edit: these upvotes better not be trumpets who are too dumb to see I'm not defending their daddy. To be clear I'm just saying we should not pin his bullshit on a mental disease, its not fair and gives him an out.
I had several people who work with the elderly tell me he had early dementia signs in 2016, and he's only declined since then, so I'm not sure what you're taking about. He's already sundowned a few times.
Oh are you saying your anecdotal evidence counters mine? Let's call it a wash.
The debate should not be held on an entertainment channel.
weird
We need these to start popping up at his rallies
Nah, I think the current strategy is the best. They try to paint themselves as some "silent majority", when in reality they are just some odd balls, who for some reason are obsessed about having demented, geriatric felon to hold the office off the president.
They are just a group of weird, insane people.
Yeah, it would just start fights and contribute to the overall stupidity of everything.
Little. Baby. Bitch.
Old man makes stupid demands, unaware he looks like the weak orange bitch he is
"Any time, any place"...
I love how all the news orgs this morning worded it that Trump approved of the fox debate as if it was a thing before he made it one. Harris should make him do the ABC one with live fact checking before even considering fascist entertainment news network.
Live fact checking sounds good to me. I’d also like to see a long-form debate so that candidates have enough time to properly discuss each topic. The traditional format seems so outdated and only helpful for creating soundbites.
Trump wants everything in his favour
Which I could sort of understand, but then he whines for years about it if he doesn't get his way. Even my young children get over things faster than he does.
Conservatism in a nutshell.
I thought you said she already agreed to it. What a weirdo.
Go back to bed, old man
"Dodge" implies a degree of finesse. He's throwing a temper tantrum. Again. Because he's afraid he's gonna lose unless he gets to pick the referee.
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I see the "ET" logo under right wing sources, and I think "Entertainment Tonight" is right wing?
ET is Epoch Times
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How about have it held by Reuters or the AP and every channel can simply pay them to show it?
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