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[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 102 points 1 year ago

You know this isn't about male or female, it's about promoting hate.

[-] halvar@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

It's weird, because having spent a lot of time with them, it always seemed to me, that a lot of "right-wingers" are misanthropes who just need a group to hate and a reason to hate said group. Then they acquire a right-wing (preferably radical) ideology and retroactively rationalize their hate with that. And I do know even self-defined far-right people (if not that many) who don't just blindly hate any group (I know, weird) but most of them in my opinion just hate everyone and everything but only letting you know about the minorities don't like.

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Every cuntservative talking point is a lie wrapped around a kernel of truth that they don't even care if it makes sense as long as they feel it gives them permission to hate.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

around a kernel of truth

Not truth, just what they feel ought to be true because of some backwards ass reasoning that sounds semi-logical when you have a room-temp IQ and you don't think about the thing for more than a second

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[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago

I'm slow and missed this week's news cycle. What the hell is going on?

Does this have to do with the Olympic Boxing thing?

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago
[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 year ago

What's the Olympics boxing thing?

[-] Whattrees 165 points 1 year ago

Boxer from Algeria beat an Italian boxer in something like 46 seconds.

Algerian girl had been previously banned from a boxing event after some "confidential" test determined she didn't qualify. Later,the boxing group said she had XY chromosomes but no solid evidence. Olympics tested her and she passed. She was born a girl and always lived as a girl, being trans is illegal in her country.

The right is insisting she is trans because of either the XY thing or a claim that she has high T levels (I don't think this has been confirmed). Suddenly they are acting like her genitals don't matter and she is a male anyway even without any evidence (at best she would be intersex from the chromosomes but not trans).

[-] moistclump@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago

I’ve heard it being described as “the right thinks there’s two genders: men and fuckable. Anything they personally consider not fuckable is now being called the former.”

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is the smartest thing I've ever heard anyone say, ever. I wonder, is it fuckable or breedable?

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago

Then you might like the saying about the two races: white and political.

[-] desktop_user 30 points 1 year ago

Finally, it won't be gay to find femboys hot.

[-] Blubber28@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Funnily enough, with the fact that grindr crashes sometimes near republican conventions, they may think the same way. They would never admit it though, of course.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Oh I dunno. I've seen plenty of right wingers with hate symbols on their pickup trucks that definitely have some very grey areas between men and fuckable .

[-] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

I think they just don't want to admit they could get their ass kicked by a woman.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 28 points 1 year ago
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[-] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 58 points 1 year ago

This can and should be the undoing of the mainstream MAGA/Tories fascist and transphobic BS we have been spoon-fed for the last 7 or so years.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 78 points 1 year ago

They're completely immune to hypocrisy, unfortunately

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 year ago

Hypocrisy is one of their core values.

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is correct. It took me years to cure my liberal belief that hypocrisy is not a virtue for these assholes (conservatism). So much time wasted on "gotchas" about it.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

You can't logic someone out of a belief they didn't logic into.

They're all feelings. You gotta get them afraid of the right things. Like billionaires.

[-] humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago

But it's much simpler to make them fear jews, trans people, or muslims

[-] sudo42@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Mark Twain said it is much easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they are being fooled.

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[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago

I did the “ok, but why” argument with a MAGA I am forced to interact with on the trans issue.

He ended up admitting how “well, what am I supposed to do if I meet a really cute girl, and we go out, and then she had a penis!” I dunno, what would you do there? Maybe realize something about yourself and stop being a hateful fuck.

[-] humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

A few trans people were killed in the similar situation and that's horrible

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[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

So much time wasted on “gotchas” about it.

I feel your pain friend, intimately.

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Can and should and won't. Remember: the SI unit for progress is the Funeral.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Can you convert that to freedom units for me?

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago

But they so earnestly care about fairness in women’s sports! \s

[-] Username02@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

You know, we should do a follow up with their logic and dare them to propose a ban to black athletes for having unfair advantages too.

[-] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Which, um, used to be true?

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Well I agree, we should continue with this logic. Unironically get rid of gender discriminatory leagues. My gender has nothing to do with whether someone 2ft taller than me will destroy me at basketball. Or genetic reflexes differences, etc. The only way to separate people based on genetic ability would be to separate based on performance(and this of course disadvantages people of average performance because of genetics, but above average technique/training/etc.)

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

First, that's already how many sports are, there's an "open" league and a women's league that exists because sexual dimorphism is a hell of a drug.

Second, skill-based classes present a different perverse incentive to intentionally under-perform in order to dominate a lower bracket rather than ascend to the bottom of a higher tier.

There's not really a perfect solution as long as there are stakes beyond pride and good sportsmanship.

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[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Too many billionaires own basketball teams for this to fly.

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[-] mydude@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

We are losing the class war...

[-] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

"In a stunning twist..."

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