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submitted 2 months ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Non-paywall link: 12ft.io/https://www.thedailybeast.com/democrats-mock-donald-trump-as-too-old-to-runlike-he-did-to-joe-biden?ref=home?ref=home

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[-] VanillaBean@lemmy.world 263 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Because he IS too old. Biden did the right thing. Selflessly put the country before himself and listened to his party. I don't think Trump would ever have enough morals or integrity to do that in a million years unfortunately. So we'll have to beat the old loon and his band of circus freaks at the polls, again.

[-] superb 97 points 2 months ago

Biden was never supposed to run for a second term, and then dragged his feet until the very last minute. The selfless thing would’ve been to step aside for someone younger before the race began

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 29 points 2 months ago

Yeah, he fucked over everyone by participating in the primaries.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not that I'm suggesting that this was intentional or that he did right to wait, but there are a few upsides. Trump and the Republicans were fully prepared and frothing to take on that blubbering old man from that last debate, but now they're actually going to make a case for Trump over a (hopefully) real contender. And many Democrat voters went from feeling defeated and apathetic, potentially enough to not even bother voting, to being charged with a second chance and a (again, hopefully) more exciting candidate to support. If Biden had declared his intention not to run again before the primaries, the Republicans would have had much longer to prepare and pick apart someone who wasn't such an easy target, and Dems would have been infighting over the nuances of a dozen candidates and pissed off at each other. And, if Harris is the presumptive nomination, for better or worse, the knee jerk reaction from the Right will probably be to play up the racist and sexist angles, which should drive moderates away from the right, not away from Harris.

It's all conjecture, but I only see this as a net positive compared to where we were yesterday.

[-] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

More importantly imo: it put Biden and the Dems in the news and overshadowed the attempted assassination. Which kept its new cycle short and put the dems back on top. Trump hates being out of the news, and was right that the media wants him back because they loved the numbers he provided. The DNC should make a circus out of this to keep it in the news and with constant breaking news events. It’s stupid, and I hate it, but it would help them win.

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[-] qprimed@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 months ago

agreed, never should have tried for the second bite.

however... dems now have an opportunity to own the news cycle from here until the election. if they do even a halfway decent job, we start trending from "narrow loss" -> "political landslide".

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[-] robocall@lemmy.world 128 points 2 months ago

Trump doesn't care about the responsibility of being president. He likes the power and prestige of it.

[-] AreaKode@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

But I don't want real power, because with real power comes real responsibility, and I don't want any of that shit.

I just want the money.

And the illusion of power.

And puss.

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[-] takeda@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Not just that, this is his ticket to stop all the criminal trials.

[-] Geobloke@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago

He does, but only because it's either be President or go to jail

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[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 111 points 1 month ago

“The first party to retire its 80-year old candidate is going to be the one who wins this election.”

— Nikki Haley, in January.

BTW, I think it would be good for Dems to always call Trump 80. It will be a good irritation for Republicans

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

I've been getting down voted for saying it for a year...

But yeah, trump doesn't stand a fucking chance now. Also, this is probably the only way to get people excited about Kamala.

2028 better be a real primary or we just kicked the can down the road.

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

You know it will probably be either the Harris reelection effort, or no election due to complications from Trumpitis

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[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 98 points 1 month ago

Yeah, these ads almost write themselves. Show clips of right-wingers describing Biden as old and senile, then splice in clips of Trump rambling incoherently. The entire Trump campaign has been built around attacking Biden, so there will probably be a lot of tangential benefits of switching to Harris.

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[-] Delusional@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago

He's always been too old to run. It's completely ridiculous that he would go after his opponent for something that he is as well without a hint of irony.

He could shame others for having a pot on their head while he has multiple pots on his head and his voters wouldn't be able to see the farce.

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

It was always just about image. Trump has a bunch of other bad things to talk about and he doesn't show age as a problem as clearly as Biden does. Not to say there haven't been moments where Trump has had moments like Biden but the focus has always been on the other bad aspects of Trump. The reason they focus on it with Biden is because he doesn't really have much else interesting going on for the media to focus on instead.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago

Well, many people are saying it, not just Democrats. Just the other day, the biggest manliest Republican ran up to me with tears streaming down his face, and he fell on his knees, and he said "Sir, sir! Our orange god-emperor is actually very very old and in obvious mental decline! He needs to drop out right now!"

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

Very good people, the best people.

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[-] 242@lemmy.cafe 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Like CNN is ever going to mention trumps age or any doubts about his mental capacity. They were bought out years ago.

If you ever hear a right winger whine about CNN smack them in the face for being so ungrateful. They carry trump water all day, every day.

[-] prole 16 points 1 month ago

Shit, NPR made a noticeable shift rightward during (and since) Trump's presidency due to some perception of having a liberal bias for simply stating the factual news.

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[-] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 month ago

We just need a maximum age for running for president. Id like my president's to be of a normal working age. If you're going to be over 65 by the end of the term then that's too old imo since they would be older than 5/6 of the population.

[-] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago

Kamala would be over 65 by term 2's end. I think 70 is a good number but honestly I overwhelmingly agree with the sentiment. Make the max age lower and the right candidates will "magically" appear. The pecking order today sadly includes people in their 60s and 70s because we almost never elect different people for house/senate.

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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Maybe it was the way I worded my comment before, but I got downvoted for criticising that too many politicians are too old to still be in office. I got response from someone that age shouldn't matter if the person is competent.

Then it occurred to me that maybe it was boomers who downvoted me for hitting a nerve. And I should have responded that if there is minium required age to become POTUS, why shouldn't there be a maximum age?

That being said, it also occurred to me that there is ageism against younger people in politics. The voting age in many places do not want to be lowered as youths are told to be too immature to vote. But how come no one says old people are too old and senile to vote? I don't mean to go into old vs young people mudslinging, but old people have elected representatives that only benefit their own demographic and not for everyone in the country. One reason for the housing crisis is that old people elect politicians who do not want to build more affordable housing so as not to devalue their property.

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[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 months ago

If there's anyway to convince him not to run that'd be wonderful. There are many Maga folks that emulate him but I don't think they're nearly as likely to be able to actually pull off a coup.

Granted, it's a fucking long shot that he'd listen to anyone.

[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 months ago

Trump only listens to people who tell him what he wants to hear.

How do you remove a cult leader like that?

[-] remotedev@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 months ago
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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

Finally! The dems are going low!

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I kind of fear what comes next after Trump (he is old and I can't imagine him serving a full term).

  1. Can Trump transfer his cult to a successor with a mere endorsement and forever continue a cycle of scrambling to vote for this "last" democrat.
  2. His cult fizzles out and the Republican party splits support over multiple candidates.
  3. A person like DeSantis (less of a narcisstic idiot and more a true representive of Republican hatred) takes over and is worse than Trump.
[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He will never willingly let go of his control over his base. Trump doesn't give a single fuck about the MAGA movement beyond the fact that it is his own personal army of zombie sycophants.

His followers may be dogmatic about MAGA, but I can assure you that Trump himself is not. If he dropped dead tomorrow MAGA would instantaneously begin fizzling out, and it would fracture the Republican party.

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[-] EldritchFeminity 22 points 1 month ago

Based on what my true-crime cult obsessed friend has said on the matter, option 2 is probably the most likely; though the party at large will always rally behind whoever the nominee is, because that's how Republicans operate.

DeSantis already tried to court the cult of Trump, and he failed because these cults of personality are entirely fixed around their leader. As my buddy described it, it's not like a hydra where you can cut the head off and the cult keeps going. Once the leader is gone, they fizzle out. Even in the case of endorsing a successor, I can't imagine the group having the same kind of following for the same reason - without Trump, the Flavor-Aid sours. There will be new leaders, but they'll have to work to sway the core voters in the way that Trump has. And the Flavor-Aid is a perfect metaphor, because Trump sounds exactly like Jim Jones according to my friend.

[-] ZeroTemp@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

This is the first time in the wild that I have seen someone correctly mention "Flavor-Aid" instead of "Kool-Aid" in reference to Jim Jones.

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[-] frezik@midwest.social 16 points 1 month ago

Cults of personality are never quite the same once the big personality passes. They tend to fragment, shrink, or otherwise fade away. Members may join other high control organizations, but they won't be united.

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[-] archomrade@midwest.social 32 points 1 month ago

Say whatever you want about the advisability of Biden dropping out, it is going to make the best fucking content.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Real leftist unity right here. Either way it's gonna be 10 times more interesting than biden vs trump.

[-] Cerbero@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Can someone please lift the interesting curse. Can we have boring back?

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[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

And now Trump being shot at is no longer being reported lol

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[-] Loce@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago
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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Bitch so old he interned for Mussolini.

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[-] ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Oh.. it's mocking when Dems do it..

Why isn't it just behavioural parity?

Are both sides not allowed to behave the same? Be equal?

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Not just Dems saying it. Everyone is saying it.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Many people are saying it! 👐 The best people 👋 they come up to me ☝️and say, they say 👐 Mr Mad Caesar, 🤚with tears in their eyes, Mr Caesar, Trump 🍊 is just too old to be president! 👐

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[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

Turnabout is fair play :3

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