Why are we still preordering AAA digital video games from multi-million dollar corporations?There is no incentive to preorder AAA video games anymore - long gone are the days of midnight launches for physical games.

• Cyberpunk 2077
• Returnal
• Forsaken
• The Lord of the Rings: Gollum
• Fallout 76
• Grand Theft Auto: Definitive Edition
• The Last of Us Part 1
• No Man’s Sky
• Etc. ad nauseum

All of these games came with a half-assed apology from the publisher and how “this wasn’t their intention”. Yes, it was absolutely their intention. They released a knowingly broken game and charged us full price for it. They already got our money and laughed because they know we’re too stupid to do anything about it and that they’ve trained us well with “fear of missing out”.

How many times do us gamers need to get burned by video game publishers until we learn our lesson?

Stop rewarding and encouraging their predatory behavior. Opt out of this abusive practice by not preordering and voting with your wallet. Let them earn your money, so “they can feel a sense of pride and accomplishment”.

I don't know a lot about Denuvo, is it a bad thing? Why did you cancel your pre order based on that?

The fact that you even gave them money and had a preorder to cancel in the first place means you're part of the problem, my friend.

Stop preordering.

Yeah, I don't get it -- the game is essentially online-only (not sure if you can play with bot teammates like the previous titles, but that wasn't too enjoyable anyway). Why pay for Denuvo as well unless you're out of touch?

That's the thing, the game is already online only, why do they need anti piracy DRM on top of it?

adding DRM to a game that is already always-online

Funny should you mention that

Fwiw, Denuvo is actually really hard to crack. There's like one well-known person who is capable and she's incredibly unlikeable. Agreeable sentiment though; Denuvo sucks and harms legitimate consumers (arguably more than it inconveniences pirates).

I think we're down to only 1, maybe 2 people that can crack Denuovo. One of them is a raging psychopath lol

I think in the end Denuovo is going to win. :(

I agree with your statement.

The main problem lies with the fact that the game already is online only, so adding denuvo feels a bit like a fuck you sign from the publishers. And adding the fact that payday 2 thrives from the modding community makes it hard to know if modding will be possible and encouraged by the devs with payday 3

DRM takes away from development budget (it isn't free). If they are charging me for the experience, I don't want to fund something that, best case, detracts from my experience using the product. If there were an actual argument that the drm would prevent developer losses (I'm willing to ignore the overwhelming data suggesting piracy, in fact, leads to increased profits), I'd be somewhat sympathetic, however this is an online only, co-op game that requires server handshakes. There is not even a hypothetical benefit to invasive DRM, so why would I agree to pay for it?

Be honest, you're a denuvo/DRM shill.

We don't already know it doesn't impact performance, we don't know what checks it will make, and we don't know that denuvo ACTUALLY impacts sale numbers by convincing those mean old pirates to buy their game.