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[-] Delta_V@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

AFAIK they still have the engineering chops to start building modest and practical daily drivers instead of unobtainably priced and ludicrously oversized trucks and SUVs. Surrendering most of the marketshare pie to Japan, Korea and China is a choice that US automakers have made.

[-] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

This is exactly why Honda, Kawasaki, and Suzuki own the motorcycle market and Samsung and LG make all your TVs.

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

They keep on building huge ridiculous EV then cry that EV aren't selling.. It is like US Automakers are The Sims

[-] Delta_V@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Right? Make a Ford Escort EV that starts at $25,000, with a 200 mile range, that can fast charge from 25% to 75% in 5 minutes, and they won't be able to build them fast enough for all the people who would want to buy them.

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

we have tariffs against the companies selling EV that can actually do that

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They can't make profitable, affordable EV yet.. They just don't know how to do it.

People are like oh but the Bolt sold well and was affordable. Sure, at a loss, on a platform not designed to scale up and be profitable at high quantities.

So yes they're building big EVs so they don't bankrupt themselves and yes that then gives them a self fulfilling prophecy.

Edit: just to add, they're using the learnings from these bigger, still not profitable EVs to learn how to make profitable EVs.

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

yup there will be a Kodak moment when BYD starts their Mexican factory

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I have a feeling that might get delayed via US pressure... but that's only going to buy them a little more time to figure their shit out.

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Chronic myopic short-term greed in the US auto industry. In its' insatiable appetite, it manages to both remain morbidly obese as it shrinks in size.

[-] yessikg 24 points 8 months ago

The moment the Chinese EV plants open in Mexico, it will be game over for USA automakers

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The government will pull out every stop to keep the big three afloat. It was tariffs now, but seriously expect them to pull the “national security” card on the telematics system because “it sends data back to China” and they’ll block them as long as they can.

Edit: Called it Story literally came out the next day.

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I wouldn't mind an EV without screens and such if Chinese automakers do a malicious compliance car.

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

They better adapt faster and have the ceos and upper management take pay cuts

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

As long as the CCP rules China I will never buy a Chinese EV. Or computer. Or phone.

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

Are there any companies other than Apple that make PCs or smartphones that do not include Chinese components?

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I don't think there's anything you can really do to avoid electronics that contain Chinese components. As long as it's designed outside of China I feel moderately safe about that.

[-] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Personally I don't want an ev that just bursts into flames.

[-] finestnothing@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

You sound like my semi-racist MIL who thinks anything coming out of a china is inherently a cheap piece of shit and American made is guaranteed better quality and super safe. The quality of these EV's is comparable to anything american made, American car companies just don't want to lower their markups. There's a reason why the big three (Honda, Toyota, Ford) throw over $10 million a year at politicians via lobbying.

[-] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

No american cars are dog shit too. Chinese evs go up in flames more than they are letting on. Google Chinese insider.

[-] nerd_E7A8@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago

I've been recently watching the Just Rolled In YouTube channel. It seems like there's plenty of people who simply don't care if their car is a deathtrap.

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

Investors better sell legacy american automaker/oil company stocks

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

And you better vote in the presidential election

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Oh I always vote

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

Is there a non-paywall link or summary? I really wish the article summarizing bot would show up here.

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