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[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 129 points 4 months ago

The CBC is a big part of the reason Canada isn't as messed up as the US.

Canada has for-profit media and plenty of media that leans left or right. But, CBC exists to anchor that media universe with a boring, institutionalist, honest view.

[-] quicksand@lemm.ee 39 points 4 months ago

The US has NPR and PBS but I'm guessing they're not as influential as the CBC is in Canada

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 months ago

I don't even think PBS & NPR are as well funded (though I don't have sources to support that). That's why they're always doing telethons and thanking "viewers like you" for supporting their programming.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

And they’ve already had massive funding cuts and corporate sponsors stepped in.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 77 points 4 months ago

As more and more traditional media die, the more we need CBC. It's only becoming more important.

[-] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 62 points 4 months ago

The conservatives truly want to destroy Canada, they look to the south, see the divided country down there, and say "yes, please, some of that up here"

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 61 points 4 months ago

Hey, Ontario dumbfucks, stop voting CPC. You can swing this election.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 32 points 4 months ago

Ontario is a brain injury.

[-] WilfordGrimley@linux.community 8 points 4 months ago

I won't be voting for the Liberal party again unless they give us the electoral reform they promised us and didn't deliver when they had a majority government.

I'm hopeful for a strong NDP opposition to a Conservative minority.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago
[-] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Lol, I have been voting since the 2000's and never voted CPC or any other Conservative party until 2019 (and still haven't provincially)... Provide me with an alternate that leaves both the Liberals and NDP without power and I'll gladly not vote CPC this time around.

Full disclosure: I've recently been considering voting PPC for the first time.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago
[-] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

I actually joined their party once to vote for a new leader. My person lost and with the shitshow that followed I'll be avoiding them too.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

And you're swinging from the Greens to the far right PPC? Bruh.

[-] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

I have never actuslly voted Green in an election.

Also, I believe the PPC is more libertarian than right but i could be wrong.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I mean, how socially regressive is too regressive to be libertarian? They've been pretty clear on their stances with respect to immigrants and other minorities.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Without socialist economics, libertarianism is extremely regressive, as it just means turning the economic power of the ruling class into the only power that exists. North American libertarianism is far right as fuck.

(If you want to see what libertarianism plus socialism looks like, google Errico Malatesta.)

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 48 points 4 months ago

Only fools would conclude that the problem of executive bonuses is caused by a public funding model. If you thought private companies don't hand out outlandish bonuses to executives, you haven't been paying attention.

[-] blindsight@beehaw.org 6 points 4 months ago

Also, bonuses are also explicitly part of many compensation packages. It's contractually required for them to be paid, in many cases.

There are lots of reasons why this is done, too; for example, it can be used to reduce risk. If bonuses are tied to the success of a program, then the CBC doesn't pay as much for "duds" that don't earn as much revenue.

[-] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 38 points 4 months ago

We can go back to "reforms" Harper government done like muzzling scientists and defunding projects serving public interest. Of course those same people would want to defund the only outlet not in their pockets. I haven't seen a single point on Conservative agenda that is not going to harm average person short or long term. yet people still vote them in and Liberals behaving like entitled pricks do not make situation any better. Even NDP has shifted to the right. There's no federal party with representation in Parliament that has workers as a central point of their agenda. Everything is now about business which is very much not the same

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 months ago

As much as I like the cbc, the upper management should not be handing out bonuses while workers are being laid off.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 39 points 4 months ago

Some of these bonuses are part of the performance evaluation they already signed on and whether they met these objectives or not. You can't really go back on an agreement made before the cuts.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

That's not how bonuses work.

This move was greedy on the part of management in the CBC and they should better structure their compensation.

[-] running_ragged@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

That should be good news to the staff being let go. Pretty sure they had agreements too.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Most of those initial job cuts before the funding issue was fixed were vacant positions that were abolished and not fulfilled, which were already budgeted for.

[-] Rakenclaw@fedia.io 23 points 4 months ago

I can hardly wait to not vote for this guy.

[-] SamuelRJankis@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Most people would just say CBC should be run differently, but everyone familiar with the Conservatives know they really just itching to do a fire sale for all crown properties.

[-] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 months ago

The swarm of bots on Youtube just simultaneously creamed themselves.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 months ago

How come no one talks about how the CBC has clearly been under attack by armies of pretend people probably funded by foreign governments for like a decade

[-] blindsight@beehaw.org 11 points 4 months ago

Publicly funded independent journalism helps prevent the spread of misinformation. China and Russia's foreign interference is already working, and they finally have enough leverage that they can try to eliminate the CBC.

The echo chamber of social media algorithms is driven disproportionately by early interaction, and with sophisticated content farms dodging spam detection when they pile on their own posts, Russia and China are able to shift dialogue in their direction of choice. It's a shockingly effective strategy, and it's slowly dismantling Western power and influence.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This has been my suspicion for a long time. I feel like this technology started bearing fruit in a big way in like 2018-2019 when things started going fucking weird. I think Brexit was the first major world-changing victory of these psychological warfare campaigns.

[-] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago

I suppose that anyone that cannot see the similarities between Squinty McProudBoy and trump will be voting for Squinty McProudBoy and his base of white supremacists, fascists, racists, misogynists and assholes.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago

He doesn't seem very much like Trump to me, and I definitely won't be voting for him.

Like, he seems bad, but let's not cheapen actual fascism.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

I listen and enjoy listening to CBC radio.

This would actually make my day to day life worse and I doubt he would give me a tax break that would be worth it.

[-] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

There wouldnt be a single dollar tax break on the middle class...

On the rich, on the other hand.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago

Even the carbon tax is only a net loss for the most polluting and usually richest Canadians.

(Well, unless you include lost growth, but at that rate you should include the cost of climate change too, and it's a net gain for almost everyone)

[-] smokescreen@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

CBC is a mid news outlet, some bad reporting, some good reporting, I can see the benifit of their execs getting a pay cut, but overall is ok.

[-] Nogami@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

The CBC doesn’t do a perfect job but it’s far better than not having them.

That said it’s often better to look at foreign reporting of your country to get a better perspective.

I like the BBC for that with regards to Canada and either BBC or CBC for the US.

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Yup, CBC can be hit or miss on our local oligarchs.

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