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[-] polonius-rex@kbin.run 266 points 7 months ago

the media:

we'll stop naming school shooters due to copycat killers

also the media:

his name was thomas matthew and here's a 90 minute special about his preferred breakfast cereal

👀 👀 👀

[-] David_Eight@lemmy.world 104 points 7 months ago

If this encourages these psychos to stop shooting children and shoot politicians instead, I'll take that trade.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 23 points 7 months ago

I'll say the name of anyone that takes a shot at a fascist, for any reason. Even being the wrong kind of fascist.

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[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 93 points 7 months ago

Did the media ever really say they'd stop naming school shooters??

[-] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 84 points 7 months ago

Also, I'm told this wasn't a school shooting.

[-] KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca 51 points 7 months ago

The media is not one thing. Media is plural. Good luck getting "the media" to agree on anything.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 38 points 7 months ago

They sure can agree on a few things:

  • Ads make money.
  • More ads make more money.
  • Money.
  • More money.
  • 🦀 money money money 🦀
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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Wish.com Lee Harvey Oswald didn't shoot up a school though

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I guess they made the call that releasing this information is the lesser of two evils, the other one being to withhold it and to let speculation run wild in a heated political climate, in which one side is not shy about threats of violence.

[-] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 14 points 7 months ago

Who ever kills Trump will get an entire movie about them.

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[-] SayJess 132 points 7 months ago

ITT: Look at the parents, this kid was just rebelling!

Press X to doubt

Or… He was a conservative that saw MAGA as the existential crisis that it is. He decided that he had nothing left to lose. He went for it.

Let’s be real here. The only shame was that he missed.

I think he died for a cause. But that could just be my bias showing.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 68 points 7 months ago

I just want to go back in history and ask at what point people would've considered it appropriate to use political violence against someone like Hitler, or was it never okay? Like was it post first coup? Post second coup? After invading Poland? Did they need to wait for gas chambers? I'm curious when public sentiment shifted.

[-] PeterLossGeorgeWall@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 7 months ago

Well people tried to kill Hitler loads of times. 42 times according to Wikipedia. First was in 1932, before he became dictator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_Hitler?wprov=sfla1

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[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 63 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I feel that everyone should resist the urge to act like psychics or psychologists right now. We know far too little at this point to speculate on this kids state of mind before or during the shooting.

As we learn more, perhaps that will change, but - and this is the terrible truth - we may never know. and we’re ALL going to have to learn to process and move on from this either way.

[-] Veneroso@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago

Seriously. It might not have been political at all.

When John Hinckley Jr took a shot at Reagan, he was trying to impress Jodie Foster......

https://youtu.be/ogp4o1d4p3E?si=yzTdwdadV7Qcdjy9

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Or… He was a conservative that saw MAGA as the existential crisis that it is.

Or he was a conservative and thought that Trump wasn't racist enough.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

Or seen the Epstein stuff, and felt incredibly betrayed.

Former rightist here, I not only got my face eaten by the Fidesz leopards (gutted health-care, gutted job security, gutted disability benefits that are now also harder to get, etc), and I remember the day when I've read that Fidesz lowered the age of consent to 12 in case both parties are under 18. I thought a "conservative" party would do the opposite, and raise it to 18 with some exceptions. I remember being so angry I couldn't sleep that night at all, seen the sun rising, and my luck was that I didn't have school on that day. And after the whole cHiLd prOteCTion fiasco, one of their politician even married an 18 year old he groomed since she was 14. Many claim the low age of consent of my country is only for close-in-age relationships, but it doesn't stop much greater age differences, which are dangerously popular, because "boys at my age are stupid and don't have cars" as some of those teen girls would say, others are being groomed with "but age differences are natural" if they were skeptical and didn't want to run into such a relationship.

I took the whole "child protection" thing seriously. I knew victims. Many of them were my age. However when I had to realize some was just using it as an issue to get me to vote for them, while they themselves were doing it, often way more publicly than how Trump did it.

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[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 94 points 7 months ago

Makes sense, most shooters show warning signs.

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[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 59 points 7 months ago

It is crazy how missing one shot could have changed the course of history. People are really trying to paint this guy as a leftist because of a donation lol.

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 44 points 7 months ago

Wasn't that $15 from a 69 year old veteran with the same name?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Funny how I heard about the $15 on the news but not about how it turned out to be a better person with the same name.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

This has been disproven.

[-] tweeks@feddit.nl 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I've tried to find sources for this, but all lead into a circle of people just saying this without providing an actual verifiable link or anything.

Edit: This comment from someone was the closest I got: https://lemmy.world/comment/11189733

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[-] workerONE@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago

Do records show that he donated to a progressive PAC? I thought they show a person with the same name donated but that the age was different

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 47 points 7 months ago

Look at the timing - Jan 20th, 2021. The day Biden was sworn in.

$15 is not much and could very well be him delivering on a bet over the election

[-] negativenull@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago

Or a friend donating in his name as a joke

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No. Giving 15$ dollars to a liberal cause is a clear indication that you are a political dissident willing to die for the DNC. End of story.

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[-] kromem@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

The address on the filing has his street address and zip but the wrong city.

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[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 14 points 7 months ago

This one has gone back and forth a couple of times, but snopes says it really was him. shrug

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[-] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 17 points 7 months ago

Who’s seen the new season of the boys

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 17 points 7 months ago

False flag is a possibility but the US has enough crazy for something like this to just happen.

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