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[-] maxenmajs@lemmy.world 49 points 9 months ago

This is pretty bad. There are reports that a bystander was killed. It's gross to call the shooter a hero.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 51 points 9 months ago

Why would they be a hero? They helped trump.

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Nobody in their right mind wants this. It only helps Trump.

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I have seen zero people saying that

E: Never mind I see it.

[-] meowoem@lemy.lol 9 points 9 months ago
[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

I'd be pleased if Trump never existed. It's still gross to call the shooter a hero.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

He wasted his life and didn't even succeed in his goal, or did he? I know sounds nuts but by the looks this attempt on Trump life has helped him. Look at that goddamm photo op. Bullshit.

[-] hopesdead@startrek.website 32 points 9 months ago

Will this get the GOP to finally support gun bans?

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 54 points 9 months ago

Nope. Remember when someone shot up a congressional softball game and nothing happened?

[-] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago

Remember when Jan 6 nutters stormed the Capitol with guns and zip ties and nothing happened to the person inciting all of it?

[-] Makhno@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

What people had guns on Capitol grounds? Only guns I know of were the ones found a good distance away...

[-] III@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago

There were absolutely guns.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/06/15/fact-check-were-firearms-other-weapons-capitol-jan-6/7621149001/

They did also find a stockpile of guns a distance away. Both are true.

[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 15 points 9 months ago

Many GOP events already ban guns at the events, they just dont ban it outside them

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

Perfectly logical for them, since Republicans aren't the right people to be shooting at.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago

No, it will get them to support preemptively shooting those in the out-group.

[-] androogee@midwest.social 5 points 9 months ago

*continue supporting

[-] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 9 months ago

Title: "AP sources"

link: "something else - not AP."

me: "why?"

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 24 points 9 months ago

Weird how a guy whose administration directly and indirectly killed a lot of people, plans to up his body count in a second term, who's committed multiple crimes, including insurrection and espionage, but seems both unlikely to ever see justice and furthermore appears to be likely to be elected back into office would prompt an assassination attempt. It's the small scale of "those who make peaceful revolution impossible" quote. Have a functioning justice system where you can just trust that people who do crimes will be put in prison and a functioning political system where you can just trust that the absolute worst people won't get all the power, and assassinations become the province of the insane rather than an entirely unsurprising outcome.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

I don’t follow the news for one day, and apparently Richard Simmons took a shot at Trump. Or was it Dr. Ruth?

[-] meowoem@lemy.lol 21 points 9 months ago

Dr. Ruth was a trained sniper. No joke.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

A sniper for terrorists, specifically

[-] meowoem@lemy.lol 6 points 9 months ago

Well, I think at the time the people involved felt differently. But, she left, so maybe she did feel like that.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Bold move, criticizing someone whose parents were killed by Nazis.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 19 points 9 months ago

After seeing the photoshoot Trump got from this I hope Europe can pull our collective shit together once Trump pulls the US out of NATO and stops helping Ukraine.

[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago

The US is NATO. They just use you to stage airplanes somewhere your family will die instead of mine.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

Nah, the US is the largest part of NATO but every member contributes and it's more like the only reason Russia hasn't done a "special military operation" here.

[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

The US military is bigger than every other military combined, unless things have changed in the last few years.

We build bases and share planes and tech, they let us and save on defense. Our defense strategies involve using NATO bases to fuck up opposing belligerents.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Not really, NATO as an organizational is made of of the military and equipment of all members. Also NATO and US bases are different, if the US pulls out it's not taking NATO bases with it. Also I'm pretty sure the US doesn't use NATO bases for its military operations but their own bases but I'm too lazy to look that up. Also also NATO countries defence strategy has been more like "If you attack one member you attack everyone" so no one really has.

[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

If you attack a NATO member, the largest military in the world responds. The US has multiple of the largest air forces if you count our military services separately. I would assume Trump pulling us from NATO would affect our forward bases, but we may do better than brexit I guess. I just don't see it as likely. But, my point is that our independent and joint military ventures frees up nations with smaller GDPs to focus less on their own defense (even if they contribute more as a percentage) and it's a situation the US military likes.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

I'm not so sure it would. Like, yea, the US has enough military to take on like the other top 5 militaries in the world and win but NATO doesn't really need that. It's mostly about defence and the only country currently invading countries in Europe is Russia which can't seem to beat Ukraine alone. The biggest issue if the US pulls out is supporting Ukraine but defensively NATO is fine without the US I think.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 months ago

NATO has nuclear second strike capabilities globally even without the US and that's enough against overt military threats.

We need to get better at this hybrid war bullshit bc that's exactly what the US is falling to right now.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

I guess I am not sure what else it would be considered...

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

False flag operation is another term to consider

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

An assassination attempt presumes the goal was to kill the candidate

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

Yes, but I'm not sure what you're suggesting. If it's that this was a deliberate miss (maybe to give Trump a boost) it seems implausible that anyone would plan to shoot from some distance, aiming so close to the candidate that the bullet clips his ear, but not killing him. If the aim were to miss deliberately then shooting that close to his head would risk the plan backfiring completely.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

How did you determine his ear was hit by a bullet?

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

I'm naively taking the reports at face value.

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