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[-] superfes@lemmy.world 62 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Man, I'm running out of fucks to give, I couldn't care less at this point, my vote is anti-fascist whatever happens

Can we just get there already?

[-] proudblond@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago

The nearly endless campaign cycle seems tailor-made to wear us out. Wouldn’t it be nice to have it for two weeks max and then vote and be done with it? Everyone already knows how they’re gonna vote, don’t they?

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 15 points 2 months ago

You needed that much time before TV to travel the US because it was so large. With the information overload age, that is definitely not a problem anymore as everyone can see every rally and debate remotely

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Yeah, French and British showed us we don't need that much time.

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[-] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 2 months ago

Why don't you americans have some younger and more capable people to vote for?

Why are you voting for nearly dead person and a liiiiiiiittle bit less nearly dead person that is also one of the most stupid beings on this planet?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 months ago

Because America isn't a democracy, it's governed by 2 parties that service Capital above all else and presents preselected candidates that don't represent the interests of the people.

You can vote third party, but this is actively discouraged by both the establishment and the broader public, even if the broader public wishes it could happen. This provides an illusion of choice thay ultimately makes no material difference.

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago

Because they let old people vote while not going out to vote themselves and prefer to complain on the internet about the results instead of getting involved.

[-] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago

probably.... if i had to decide between biden and trump i'd take biden, no question.

But let's be honest here, both of them shouldn't be a allowed to even run for presidancy. Both are way too old and one of them is a fucking convicted fellon.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

I agree, but as long as a minority of people under 30 bother to vote, why would they expect politicians to care about them?

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[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Ohhhh, young people didn’t vote hard enough.

The entire political scene is 70+ but it’s young peoples fault that the country is falling apart.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/voter-turnout-rate-by-age-usa

Barely over 40%

Young people don't get directly involved enough, the reason the whole political scene is over 70 is because younger alternatives don't get elected.

[-] normalexit@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

That's a wonderful question.

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[-] Pringles@lemm.ee 49 points 2 months ago

As a European, we're just already assuming it will be Trump and will be pleasantly surprised if it is not that orange turd

[-] GroteStreet@aussie.zone 22 points 2 months ago

We in the upside down land will be checking which way the toilet flushes if Biden is elected, just to make sure.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

My friends outside the US in Berlin and Spain have said the same thing. Oof.

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[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

If the Biden dropped out and the democrats nominated a box of moldy dog shit, I’d still vote for the dog shit.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I feel like that would only help ou chances...

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[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

Yeah, a piece of me is concerned that if Biden drops out now, Kamala will have to start campaigning "from scratch", which is a setback.

But the way things are now, it's probably best if we just rip the Biden band-aid off now and do a Democrat party campaign reset. And the sooner the better. Kamala needs as much time to make up for Biden's blunders as possible.

Also, honestly, the mistake that put us in this position happened in 2020. Biden never should have run for his first term. Because where we find ourselves now is the inevitable result of him having won his first term in 2020.

God. Kamala is under 60. What a breath of fresh air that would be.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

If it's Kamala, she legally can keep/use all the campaign cash raised for Biden's re-election too since her name is on the ticket Biden/Harris 2024.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

It was absolutely good that Biden run in 2020. His familiarity with the office allowed him to run the country from day 1 (remember how trump was blocking handover and didn't help with transition of power?)

Biden doing foreign policy for Obama helped him tremendously with repairing all the relationships (he personally knew most of the politicians) that trump damaged and restoring NATO. Putin started invasion, because he was doubting that Biden will be able to bring NATO together in time (the invasion happened in February 2022, but or intelligence disclosed that they observed preparations as early as April 2021)

I don't think anyone else from the 20 candidates we had in 2020 was capable of pulling this. Not because I don't think they would be bad presidents, but because they would need time to ramp up

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[-] skulbuny@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

lol I'd sooner vote for neolib Biden than for that neolib pig Kamala 😂

[-] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

you really had to add 'pig'?

stay classy lemmy

[-] AxiomPraxis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

AFAIK they are referring to her prior job as Attorney General of California, literally working with the police, people seem to equate it to her being a cop herself.

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 months ago

Always bet on Americans to do the dumbest thing possible

[-] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

The purposeful decimation of education in this country is really starting to show.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

If the system wasn't rigged toward the minority, the GOP would never get another president.

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

If Biden continues, his legacy will be getting the fascist guy reelected.

[-] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 20 points 2 months ago

The legacy of the entire Democratic Party is enabling fascism. For at least the last 24 years.

Who's the bigger fascist, the fascist party or the party who compromises with the fascists?

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[-] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

That's an RBG move right thar

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Why does it matter if he's up for the job or not? Trump is absolutely unfit, and also petty, malicious, vindictive, an enemy of democracy, an ally to our enemies, a compulsive liar, a 34x convicted felon, a rapist, a scammer, a pedophile, a seditionist, a traitor, and so many other things that shouldn't be allowed anywhere near positions of power.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

So you want a weak candidate to run against him?

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[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Look, I am voting for the Democrat nominee no matter who it is, but I feel like this is why we should have primaries so we don't end up in a situation where we are finding out that the presumptive nominee is not always coherent.

March was the time to raise and have these concerns, not July.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I like where biden pointed out trump is only 2 years younger and in worse health. Yeah the other old man spewing bs looked a whole lot better than the old man who had to think about what he says and the facts around it.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

have you tried nominating anyone younger than a mountain

[-] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

I'd vote for a mountain over a fascist every day of the week. And twice on Sundays.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

That's great and all

But were talking about winning an election.

A pretty serious election...

Can we try not doing it with both hands tied behind our back?

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[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

That would involve Americans being interested in politics more then once every 4 years

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[-] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I don't get why people say that he should stay in the race at this point. He's going to lose. The best bet is to kick him to the curb and get a better candidate. One who's not 120 years old and is wholly unlikable.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

No matter who the candidate is, the media, and the GOP, and Trump, will still all ignore Trump's entirely disqualifing attributes while attacking the Democrat over superficial bullshit. The media isn't talking about right after Trump was found guilty he recieved the biggest donations in US history, or who is dumping millions into his operation. They aren't covering Trump's stump speeches full of absolute bullshit, I don't think they're even talking about him trying to disown project 2024 because of its obvious fascism, which apparently even his voters don't like when it's overly about over throwing the US government to install a dictator and privatization of the entire country's resources for the ultra rich.

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[-] uis@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

Sanders looks more alive

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Tick tock mother fucker.

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