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[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 182 points 5 months ago

Andrew is not very smart. Windows isn't very good, but he is very clueless. There are legitimate things to complain about, but Andrew just complains.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 48 points 5 months ago

I think Andrew might be a lawyer.

My roommate for a couple years in college was pre-law, and did some internships after graduation but before gaining his own law degree. He mentioned at one point how absolutely and hilariously pervasive it was at the firm he was working for attorneys to just run screaming to IT every single time literally anything was even the slightest bit inconvenient or obtuse (to their understanding). Part of it was the logic of “I bill clients at $800/hr, I am not spending my time to resolve whatever this hiccup is”, but part of it was absolutely also some bullshit power dynamics.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Yeah like, complain about the one thing MS is finally improving in recent years, clamping down on non-admin users and non-admin permissions.

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 75 points 5 months ago

Andrew is ignorant. He could learn the basics of computer literacy, which would answer all his questions, but I'll take a shot in the dark and say that Andrew doesn't want to do that and is perfectly happy being ignorant. And also angry.

[-] gnutrino@programming.dev 8 points 5 months ago

He doesn't exactly come across as happy...

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 months ago

True, his message doesn't exactly radiate happiness, but I can assure you he felt SO much better after writing this. Tech support also doubles as everyone's personal therapist, you see.

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[-] amio@kbin.run 57 points 5 months ago

"I shouldn't have to use permissions or sudo, just all root all the time"

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 months ago
[-] anytimesoon@feddit.uk 5 points 5 months ago

I don't run as root because I've always been told I shouldn't. I don't know enough about anything to be contradicting stuff like this. It has always seemed weird to me that we don't run as root and then just sudo everything, though.

What is the reason we don't run as root?

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

What is the reason we don't run as root?

We are human and make mistakes. Not running as root means the computer will ask us to confirm when we are about to do something major (like a software update, or formatting a partition). This reduces the chance of making big mistakes. (But I don't see why VLC shouldn't be able to run as root, if the user so desires.)

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[-] yuri@pawb.social 48 points 5 months ago

In defense of Andrew, until windows 10 never had I ever installed a program that made it’s own files untouchable unless you did some real fuckery with permissions.

As soon as they introduced that little warning screen in program files it was clear shit was going downhill for power users.

[-] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 10 points 5 months ago

I discovered basic versions of windows are even more restrictive when I was unable to install my favorite lightweight pdf reader in a friend's laptop because Windows home just said that for my safety I wasn't allowed. With no option to bypass this limitation being hinted at.

Ended up installing it anyways but had to run the installer from an admin terminal (luckily it was windows 7 so it was a local account with admin rights instead of a bullshit Microsoft one)

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[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 34 points 5 months ago

His problem is he went to answers.microsoft.com That place is a cesspool of fuck you, but here's a copy paste of something from 2006 so I can get some karma

[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He could alternatively go to...

Stackoverflow or Superuser, where the answer will be "use the search bar you imbecile, locked."

Quora, where every question is blatant rage bait like "my 14 year old son got a B in his test. I took away his PS5 and chained him in the basement as punishment but his grades aren't improving. How can I make him better at math?"

Yahoo Answers which is dead, and was basically Quora before Quora was a thing.

Or Reddit, where you can't even post on 95% of subs without hitting a minimum karma threshold and where some basement dwelling mod will likely ban you for breaking hidden rule #263, then modmail mute you for 28 days without reply if you try to appeal.

I think any Q&A site is absolute dog water now.

[-] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 19 points 5 months ago

They could come to lemmy!

...where people will definitely give helpful answers and not just dunk on them for not using Linux before diving into an extended argument about distros, sudo and run0

[-] Amelia_ 7 points 5 months ago

You're completely right, but there's a good reason why this happens. Why are people so insistent on trying to find fixes and workarounds for a broken system?

It's absolutely the same mindset as boomers complaining about technology these days because they don't want to learn how to download a mobile app. These people grew up with Windows and are too stubborn or insecure to learn something new, even if it's consistently better in multiple different ways. Yes, there are a few exceptions to that argument, but for the most part the arguments against switching to Linux are flimsy excuses, or outdated, or both.

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[-] adksilence@lemm.ee 31 points 5 months ago

Yeah, that guy's issue isnt a matter of "Microsoft has control over my PC!!!"; more like "I've been using a computer for years and never actually looked at how things work under the surface".

Simple permissions error, happens in Linux all the time as well.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Right?

This reeks of inexperience.

We lock things down because a malicious program can easily be "owned" by the user through stupid choices. And now you got viruses.

This is a way to stupid proof things. And the workaround isnt difficult, but it's to stop people like Andrew. And so far, success.

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[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

Man, I kind of feel for the poster.

A while back I was tinkering with some website and installed some npm packages.

Then I tried to delete the nodes modules folder.... NOTHING worked... Safe mode, permissions change, command line deletion,... I spend like an hour googling and raging, it's my fucking computer I put the fucking file there, let me delete it!!!

I was ready to give up and finally stumbled on the answer on stack overflow. The npm folder that was created (I forget exactly what it was) had the ~ symbol in path name and that basically made the folder invincible.

Luckily the poster also posted the command line to nuke the fucker and I was finally able to delete it.

So yea, I kinda get it. Seeing that stupid you don't have permission to delete this file pop-up is rage inducing.

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[-] the_doktor@lemmy.zip 28 points 5 months ago

sudo apt install linux

problem fucking solved

[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

"sudo is not recognized an an internal or external command"

[-] calebegg 10 points 5 months ago

I literally saw that kind of message very recently on a nixos based machine and I literally had to stand up and do a lap. What in God's green earth do you mean there's no 'sudo'??

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[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 25 points 5 months ago

The long reply on how to change file ownership when it could just be chown -R andrew /pictures

[-] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 5 months ago

I want to say "Haha, Idiot trusting Microsoft".

But honestly I want the same stuff he wants. Including modems in mobile phones. Including EVERYTHING I own.

[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 18 points 5 months ago

There's an OS you might like. It has no UAC, no file permissions, no sudo nor chmod, as it has no multi-user support, no antivirus and no firewall, no protection rings, not even spectre/meltdown mitigations, and most of all - no guard-rails whatsoever: You can patch the kernel directly at runtime and it won't even give you a warn. And yet, it is perfectly safe to run. It's called TempleOS and it achieves such a flawless security by having no networking support whatsoever and barely any support for removable media. If you want a piece a software - you just code it in, manually. You don't have to check the code for backdoors if it's entirely written by you... only for CIA at your actual back door...

Huh, didn't realise Windows is on a level to be compared to TempleOS. And losing. Thanks for that.

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 21 points 5 months ago

Andrew is going to get malware on his PC, guaranteed.

[-] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 15 points 5 months ago

Me trying to modify games from the Xbox store.

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 6 points 5 months ago

Open the files in any non-windows system and do what ever the hell you want.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

People talking shit about Andrew but I've had seriously weird issues with Windows throwing out odd permissions errors on seemingly basic shit on files that are 0kb after restarting and doing all sorts of basic troubleshooting including CMD Prompt and Powershell guides only for none of them to work.

It reeked of virus but never was. Just weird stupid shit that wasn't easily explained, should've worked but didn't, or various other things that the allmighty Lemmings here think is just beyond a google apparently.

FWIW I'm pretty sure it was straight up related to corrupted files in weird shared folder spots.

You have to pretend they don't exist and never think about them again after hiding them then hopefully never remember or just reinstall because it's been a couple years and probably good to do anyway.

[-] idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

Pebkac. Gui equivalent of chown perfectly working on windows and supports recursing into directories. If the questioner doesn't know how to login as an admin they miss some absolute basic computer usage knowledge, and a general help forum thread wont help them.

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[-] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

My brain read that in John Oliver's mocking voice. xD

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[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 9 points 5 months ago

bro has never heard of a computer owned by more than one person

[-] ben_dover@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

you're an idiot Andrew

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 6 points 5 months ago

Oh! I know! Andrew wants Windows 95. But then he won't be able to post questions on the Internet any more 😔 .

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