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[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 160 points 5 months ago

Holy crap, this was the third person the officer had shot in the head while on duty. This guy was a serial killer in a uniform.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 102 points 5 months ago

I just watched a documentary on John Wayne Gacy. He said the reason he loved being a clown is because:

"nobody judges you if you're a clown. You can grab and pick up women, and they just laugh. You can put handcuffs on anyone as a magic trick, and they just trust you. You could get away with murder, and nobody would look at you twice."

Which is even more chilling when you realize he used to ask teenage boys to put handcuffs on, and they did. He playfully put a noose on their necks, and they let him. And he killed them without resistance.

And cops didn't suspect him because he was an upstanding member of the community. He was a local politician, and he entertained children by being a clown.

So it's kind of the same thing. Gacy wore a clown uniform, and nobody suspects. This cop wears a blue uniform, and no one suspects. But in both cases, it's just a set of clothing. It doesn't help or change the person wearing it.

[-] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 69 points 5 months ago

One could argue both uniforms are worn by clowns

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 months ago

Except one of those group usually entertains and makes people happy

[-] BubbleMonkey@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 months ago

… which one is that?

:p

[-] AshMan85@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago
[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 28 points 5 months ago

They aren't all serial killers.

Some are just enablers.

[-] StarlightDust 69 points 5 months ago

The big red flag for me is the Mjölnir tat with the Orthala rune on his abdomen. Its one of the stranger ways of claiming they have some sort of pure Aryan herratage ethno-nationalists are often fans of using.

To put it another way, this guy is as neo-nazi as they come.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

The Spread Eagle, the Nordic helmets, Nordic rune, and the Blood Eagle wings on the back...

The saying on the hands is common to the military, and references how they're going to make a call if something is 50/50. Without knowing if he served I can't judge that. But he's just a civilian then it's pretty screwed up.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago
[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

For fuck's sake these dicks really think they're in some kind of war. That's a military saying, from a place where driving down the street was a roll of the dice and a firefight was a matter of when, not if, every day.

If that's what they think policing is then we really need to just fire them now.

[-] Railing5132@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

If the complete tat is along the lines of: "it's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 8", it's been familiar to law enforcement circles (which circles the drain with ex-military, so not surprising) for a long time. When I was in college in a criminal justice program, several instructors repeated this over and over (except I believe it was "... carried by 6".

I didn't stay in that program, BTW.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

It is supposed to be carried by 6. But it's also supposed to reference a war zone. Not policing where upholding the law is the mission.

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 52 points 5 months ago

Prior to fatally shooting Sarey, Nelson killed Isaiah Obet in 2017. Obet was acting erratically, and Nelson ordered his police dog to attack. He then shot Obet in the torso. Obet fell to the ground, and Nelson fired again, fatally shooting Obet in the head. Police said the officer’s life was in danger because Obet was high on drugs and had a knife. The city reached a settlement of $1.25 million with Obet’s family.

In 2011, Nelson fatally shot Brian Scaman, a Vietnam War veteran with mental issues and a history of felonies, after pulling Scaman’s vehicle over for a burned-out headlight. Scaman got out of his car with a knife and refused to drop it; Nelson shot him in the head. An inquest jury cleared Nelson of wrongdoing.

This guy murdered 3 people by shooting them in the head. What, do we have a 3 strikes rule for police murder now? 3 times and you're out?

[-] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

I mean... It's better than the usual infinity strikes rule cops have.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I think at the moment it's if they're convicted the punishment is a violent death in prison since our prison system is at least as dog shit as any other part of the justice system.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 46 points 5 months ago

He's been on paid administrative leave since the shooting in 2019.

...

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 45 points 5 months ago

where's my 5 year weekend...

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

We gave it to some cops. Hope you don't mind.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

People try to say he's a outlier.

Nah he's just the one who got caught.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Imagine working with this dude and not reporting / exposing this immediately. It says a lot about those working along side him.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Yeah, those are the other eight the tattoo is talking about.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago
[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

the number of skulls suggest he knew he enjoyed killing

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Motherfucker literally got huge angel wings tattooed on his back. That's some massive guilt compensation.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

Along with the other tattoos? Those are blood eagle wings. Common Nazi shit.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

His fat ass needs to be Carried by 8 ppl??? The phrase is carried by 6 This guy is an idiot.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Well, maths is hard. He's a cop, not an engineer.

[-] Master@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

Is this one person or two? The hands are clear in uniform but from the back picture you can clearly see a different set of tattoos on the back of the hands.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah that’s a bit strange, the design goes down to his fingers along the outside of the back of the hand in the shirtless photos.

[-] Master@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

You can see something on the side of his left hand like it was covered in makeup or a temporary tattoo coming off? Very strange.

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    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

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    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

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