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THE POLICE PROBLEM
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
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• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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The big red flag for me is the Mjölnir tat with the Orthala rune on his abdomen. Its one of the stranger ways of claiming they have some sort of pure Aryan herratage ethno-nationalists are often fans of using.
To put it another way, this guy is as neo-nazi as they come.
The Spread Eagle, the Nordic helmets, Nordic rune, and the Blood Eagle wings on the back...
The saying on the hands is common to the military, and references how they're going to make a call if something is 50/50. Without knowing if he served I can't judge that. But he's just a civilian then it's pretty screwed up.
more information https://archive.ph/U1rDo
For fuck's sake these dicks really think they're in some kind of war. That's a military saying, from a place where driving down the street was a roll of the dice and a firefight was a matter of when, not if, every day.
If that's what they think policing is then we really need to just fire them now.
If the complete tat is along the lines of: "it's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 8", it's been familiar to law enforcement circles (which circles the drain with ex-military, so not surprising) for a long time. When I was in college in a criminal justice program, several instructors repeated this over and over (except I believe it was "... carried by 6".
I didn't stay in that program, BTW.
It is supposed to be carried by 6. But it's also supposed to reference a war zone. Not policing where upholding the law is the mission.