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[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 69 points 3 months ago

Careful, you’ll upset the propagandists.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 3 months ago

how bout I take a propa ganda at them honkers

[-] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 20 points 3 months ago

This isn’t even my style of humor but that’s fucking funny

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 months ago

I honestly have no clue why I posted this

[-] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

That was pretty good.

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago

There's only one thing the gop loves more than LOUD projection and that's abusing kids. The party of the grand ol' pedophiles


  • NOTE: I'm reaching the character limit on Reddit posts, so here's a website with a list of about 1000 of these republican shit stains on humanity.
[-] shasta@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago

I'm reaching the character limit on Reddit posts

Reeeeee

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[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 31 points 3 months ago

Every US president I remember was a (war) criminal. But it's not about the individuals, but rather the systemic changes enacted.

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 months ago
[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Blagojevich maybe? I’m not sure exactly what we’re measuring here.

Who, by the way, was pardoned. Want to guess who pardoned him?

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[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

I don’t know but I’m betting that they were voted in by the great state of New Jersey.

[-] Kayday@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

Is this all elected officials? I'm confused where these numbers are coming from.

[-] Assman@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 months ago

They're coming directly from a well meaning individual's asshole

[-] Liz@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago

It's only federal numbers and I think they might be a few years out of date but I'm too lazy to check.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago

If this were up to date, it would absolutely list a criminal president

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[-] johny@feddit.org 23 points 3 months ago

They are not the same, the republicans are the psychopath shooting up a classroom of kids, and the democrats are the Uvalde cops tasing those that try to stop it.

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[-] Samsy@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 months ago

As a non-american just watching the democratic shitshow I can't believe why on earth there are only two parties. If the parties are fucked up, build a new one. That's what democracy is made for.

Macrons party in France was fresh up from the ground at his first election.

PS. I'm aware that France is a bad example actually, but the fact about his party is still true.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

As a non-american just watching the democratic shitshow I can’t believe why on earth there are only two parties.

In a lot of cases, there's only one real functioning party. Smaller states and gerrymandered districts tend to have a single dominant party and a secondary dissident party, with the dominant party controlling all the statewide offices and most of the legislative seats, while the dissident party controls some number of municipal seats where they have a local majority.

Macrons party in France was fresh up from the ground at his first election.

Macron spun En Marche out of the collapsed ruin of Hollande's Socialist Party (*) (for whom he was deputy secretary general until Hollande's ouster). He was more akin to Lincoln's Republicans (who emerged from the wrecked carcass of the American Whig Party) or Theodore Roosevelt's Bull Moose Party (which might as well have been Republicans For Roosevelt Party, given how badly Wilson rocked both him and Taft).

(*) don't get too existed. they were pretty thin on actual socialism.

Le Penn's National Front has a real foundation (of French fascists) that existed before she started mobilizing the party and will stick around after she's gone. Similarly the New Popular Front (not to be confused with The People's Front of Judea rimshot) has a broad coalition of support that transcends any one leader. Both are more in line with a traditional American party.

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[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Diarrhea and constipation are on separate ends of the scale. But both are the same in that they are shit, and no one wants them.

[-] retrospectology@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

They're not the same, but they do work together to thwart the will and prosperity of the people. The game wouldn't work if they were exactly the same.

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[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Oh so the party of law and order was meaning the party that keeps law enforcement busy

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

The meaning is clear. Dems only have 3 short years in which to rack up a fuckload of crimes, if they want to beat the GOP.

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[-] pastabatman@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

I have no idea if these numbers are correct. For me I don't need any history though. One party is standing behind a guy who has been charged with 91 felony counts in four different jurisdictions and convicted of 34 and counting, and that's just for stuff he did while in office or as a candidate. He attempted a coup. He fomented a terrorist attack on the Capitol. Still, the Republicans are like, "Yep, that's our guy!" all while the Democrats tear themselves apart over Biden being old and doing old person things. Yeah it would be nice to have a better option for president, but this is not a difficult decision.

Please vote, friends!

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Which party do I vote for that stops spending money on weapons or war?

Or, at the very fucking least, spent less money on weapons or war than the year before?

EDIT: I notice all the downvoters don't actually respond to a point in which both parties are the same that literally drives a lot of the domestic issues we have.

Stop defending murdering people in other countries. It's also pretty racist as most of those people are not white.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Which party do I vote for that stops spending money on weapons or war?

Probably one of the third parties running who they are encouraging you not to "waste" your vote on

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[-] neclimdul@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah well you didn't include tan suit scandals so it doesn't count

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

also condiments!

[-] nul42@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago

I'm actually confused because I know Jesse Jackson Jr. did a prions sentence of 2 and a half years for wire and mail fraud and Anthony Weiner did 18 months for sexual offenses. Frank Ballance was sentanced to 4 years for money laundering and mail fraud and William J. Jefferson was sentanced to 13 years for bribery. Jim Traficant was sentanced to 8 years for financial corruption. Which one of these is the 1 prison sentence?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Who knows? There's no citation as far as I can tell.

Its not like we don't have Bob Menendez pending trial for smuggling gold bars down his pant legs or Henry Cueller queued up for $600k in bribery charges (both of which are apparently fine, according to the GOP aligned SCOTUS...)

But you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel when your case for a 2024 candidate slate requires you to call back to the Keating Five and Abscam.

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[-] nul42@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago

Vote for the ones that don't get caught.

[-] Cyv_ 74 points 3 months ago

What's more likely:

  1. A grand conspiracy that's lasted for 50 years, that somehow has infected every branch of govt, but somehow still doesn't guarantee victory in elections, presidential and otherwise.

  2. Democrats are less corrupt.

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[-] AuroraZzz@lemmy.world 52 points 3 months ago
[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Succinct. 😂

[-] puppy@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If the Republicans have been in power more than Democrats, why haven't they investigated all the Democrats and sued them? Are you saying that the Republicans are incompetent? Tell me this also, which party holds the majority in Supreme Court right now?

[-] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 8 points 3 months ago

So even if what you're insinuating were true: do you really want to vote for the corrupt and stupid rather than the corrupt and smart? I'd at least trust the corrupt and smart people to run the country in a way that doesn't lead to catastrophic failure.

[-] SleezyDizasta@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

This is pretty meaningless if it doesn't include which levels are counted. Is this just congress? Is it the national level? Does this include the state and local levels? Without proper context this turns from an insightful piece of information to propaganda.

[-] figaro@lemdro.id 6 points 3 months ago

Exactly. This makes me feel good! We're the good guys!

Overall not helpful

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[-] Brickardo@feddit.nl 8 points 3 months ago

Because Latin America gets fucked over either way

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[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

They aren't the same. They are bad in different ways. One side are corporate shills who are looking to depress the power of workers the other wants to kill blacks, lgbtqa+, Latinos and turn women into sex slave baby machines.

One is clearly worse and we should vote against them, but don't tell me the Democrats aren't bad.

[-] ATPA9@feddit.de 21 points 3 months ago

Aren't republicans also corporate shills who are looking to depress the power of workers? And aren't they much more open about being so?

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[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

This isn't true. Off the top of my head I can think of at least two democrats who've been sentenced to prison. I vote democratic party 99% of the time and I don't disagree with the premise but I don't want like-minded folks going around with bad info

[-] hark@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

They both serve the rich first and foremost which is a critical issue for them to be "both sides" on. Yes, republicans are worse, but that doesn't make democrats good.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Both parties are capitalist and support First Past the Post voting in the states they control.

Of course there are differences, don't you want more differences?

Think the Republicans getting control in government is a existential threat? Then you should be open to using every and any tool available to fight this from becoming reality. That means taking a big gulp, and considering that perhaps the democrats don't have what it takes to take on the Republicans.

So democrats need backup! They need help out there on that debate stage to fight Trump. We need to bring in outside perspectives with fresh ideas in the form of more viable political parties in the voting booth.

This means we must do away with First Past The Post voting in each and every state in democratic control. Republican ones as well, but at the very least they have an excuse as to why they use a mathematically flawed voting system that doesn't represent everyone. What is the excuse blue states?

Time to set aside your pride democrats. Perhaps you really aren't the future in the USA. You do want a future in the United States of America right? Would you be willing to risk your beloved democratic party not being relevant any longer to save this nation? I'd say, thats going to happen either way. Either the Republicans win it all, or we find a way around this massive blue roadblock of a political party.

So you may as well do the right thing, and implement Ranked Choice voting in your state before the door hits you on the ass on your way out.

Political parties are not the USA, the people are. We can set ourselves free with state level electoral reform. Now.

[-] maniel@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

So that makes Republicans more attractive to some people

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