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Pete Buttigieg fact-checks a GOP congressman to his face at House hearing (www.lgbtqnation.com)

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[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 156 points 4 months ago

Good. This is the kinda shit Dems should keep doing. It doesn't matter if it sounds petty, these assholes are a threat to our democracy, they should not be allowed to spew their lies without consequences. If the press refuses to do their job, it falls to whoever is closest to a Republican.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 68 points 4 months ago

Buttigieg should be front and center a lot. He's whip smart, a great speaker, and really relatable

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Yes. But I don’t think he’s a “dem” like the ones forcing Biden so trump wins. Therefor it’ll be him making his way with little help sadly.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

Thank you, I’m so tired of this loyalty to decorum. Call them what they are, authoritarian regressives

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Christofascists

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Step 1: sell the press to the rich

Step 2: everything is shitty now, but why?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

We sold everything else to the rich. Why stop at the press?

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 90 points 4 months ago

“I’m wondering if there’s some point- if you’ve identified some point where you will stop, where the administration will stop, where the federal government will stop this requirement and let the market decide..."

Let the market decide? Sure let's do that. As of now, let's have the U.S. government stop subsidizing the oil industry to the tune of $20 billion+ per year and see who keeps buying gas powered cars when gas is $15-20 per gallon. Better still, pour that $20 billion into EV car development and green energy and help save the fucking planet.

[-] Masterkraft0r@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 4 months ago

not EVs. public transport. or at least mostly that and a little EVs

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Both, in particular, EV public transport. Something like this would be nice.

[-] force@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Do NOT use battery electric busses when you could use trolleybusses. Or even better, just use trams

That being said, anything is better than diesel busses

[-] aaaaace 16 points 4 months ago

Let the market decide" is like saying "Let the intoxicated person drive the car."

[-] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

EVs can't save the environment. EVs are made from oil (tires, plastics), and the metals they are made from are extracted and shipped using huge machines also made from and burning oil.

Switching from pumping oil to mining Lithium isn't a net improvement to the environment.

Any mode of transportation that is heavy and uses tires is going to be a major source of microplastics.

It is not possible to expand into sustainability when it's our massive scale that is at the core of our unsustainability. Degrowth is our only chance.

[-] kevindqc@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'll take the lesser evil of local pollution over sending billions of tons of greenhouse gas into the atmosphere every year.

I doubt degrowth will ever happen unless it's caused by population collapse due to mass casualties.

[-] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

8 billion is unsustainable, our population will decrease drastically in the coming century. We can choose whether it's via degrowth (a controlled, intentional, intelligent reversal of the economic growth of the last decades) or famine, disease, and war.

I fear you're right that degrowth will never happen and we're just going to march toward collapse.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 11 points 4 months ago

You're missing options like rail

[-] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Rail as part of degrowth is a great idea. Rail as part of expanded exploitation of natural resources is not.

[-] guacupado@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Switching from pumping oil to mining Lithium isn’t a net improvement to the environment.

We did both before EVs were a thing.

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[-] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 54 points 4 months ago

I just wish Mr. Buttigieg wasn't confined to such a low-stakes role in the administration. It's great that he gets the occasional moments like this, but he's not exactly being set up for a run at the Presidency in 2028.

[-] Assman@sh.itjust.works 41 points 4 months ago

Dude's only 42. He's got plenty of time. Hell you can't even get elected these days if you aren't getting social security.

[-] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 15 points 4 months ago

Pete 2064!

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 months ago

I dunno if I'd consider Secratary of Transportation as a low stakes role, he's been out and about getting IIJA funds out across the country and there to present new rail, highway, air and marine infrastructure improvements.

Plus, if an unspeakable fate were to befall thirteen specific individuals, simultaneously rendering them unable to perform their duties, you'd have a President Buttigieg.

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[-] ozoned@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago

A lot of GOP voters don't really care about facts sadly. I've talked to some that insist Jan 6th wasn't an issue.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago

A lot? Pretty much all of them. Look at how many lies trump said during the debate... they'll lie directly to their base and their base isn't even intelligent enough to question it.

[-] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 23 points 4 months ago

They even know they're being lied to, and still go along.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago

Because they somehow think the lying will benefit them and not the people they hate.

Predicting a republican's reaction to any issue is easy because they are all grifters.

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[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

All of these hearings serve no purpose other than to give Congress people 4 minutes of time to create some sound bites for the campaign.

Questions are widely leading or very inaccurate or even just lies ... If they ask a question at all. Some just spout garbage for a few minutes.

[-] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Not always. Both Trump's NY fraud conviction, and election interference (hush money) felonies came out of the Michael Cohen hearing, specifically from AOC questions.

Your overall point is absolutely correct, though. It's even more frustrating when it's easy to see how powerful these hearings can be.

[-] lemming741@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Fishing for a guppy and caught a whale?

[-] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I wouldn't say so. She asked direct, pointed questions about how the Trump org had over valued properties and other assets in order to get more favorable loans. She knew exactly what she was doing during that hearing.

[-] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 months ago

It goes both ways, I'm sure Buttigieg is happy to be in the news

[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Him or Bernie should have been president

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 19 points 4 months ago

He was kind of a wet paper sack sitting the primaries, if he'd come in with this energy he might've gotten somewhere.

[-] Maeve@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

They called him Mayo Pete for valid reasons, perhaps a refresher is in order.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

Miracle whip Pete?

[-] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 21 points 4 months ago

Is it too late for him to replace Biden?

[-] paf0@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Yes, it will be Newsom

[-] EveryoneDiesAlone@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Whitmer or whitehouse woukd be better, but the way the DNC plays things, they would obviously choose the weakest candidate for no reason other than to not seem biased against their opposition. It’s fucked. The whole thing is fucked.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago

I think it’s a bit more nuanced than that. They’ll obviously choose the most neoliberal candidate they think they can get away with, and try to pass him (and it will be “him”) off as “progressive”

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

If only there was some kind of formal method for identifying and vetting and selecting the party representatives, as part of - like - an election or something. I feel like if maybe we'd started back in January and had a bunch of debates between these people early on, we might be able to include ourselves in the discussion.

Instead, I guess we're just going to wishcast our favorite blue state governor into the White House, until the DNC Convension disabuses us of our delusions.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

So Newsome

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[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

No. It’s because they are getting paid by the same people to seem like they care. They don’t and I am not saying both parties are the same I’m saying the same entity controls both party’s coffers. The oligarchs.

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[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

I accept my anger and cynicism; I forgive myself for letting these people anger me. I try to “turn the other cheek” and simply be a better person than them. But…

…the more i hear these people talk, the more I’d love to see something excruciatingly painful to happen to them.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

central planning model and this dictatorial policy

Fuck you, Scott Perry.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Its the same shit from these people day in and day out. The Reagan Playbook is half-disintegrated in their hands but they can't stop running it.

[-] Maeve@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Lee Atwater playbook, but yes.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

As one of his constituents I approve this message.

[-] Donut@leminal.space 3 points 4 months ago

I didn't see anything in the article and the X embeds are just text to me, so here's a video: https://youtu.be/cu9OnPo5IIE

If you like to stay in good spirits, don't read the comments.

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