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It was in the chain of command before? Wow gee I wonder how that could possibly go wrong!
Just to spell it out:
Promotions are based on performance. After a few promotions, you have people that report to you. This means their performance is your performance. So the CoC properly handling rape allegations is against their own self interest.
There's a documentary called the invisible war that covers this topic in excruciating detail.
Ahh good. The Catholic Church model of reporting and punishment doesn't work so well
Works well for the church though ....
I heard Pope Francis was changing that, cause yeaaaah...
Having it reported through Confession which by doctrine cannot be shared or punished, not really working out for anyone.
Works out great for the rapists
oh oh!!! now to the police next please!
I've heard it said that women in the military get assaulted so often they're basically the state's own unwilling prostitutes.
Till the next repub pres ovrrturns this?
Regardless, hope this sticks.
Maybe. But all the reversals are politically motivated so depends how much their base will get hard on reversing it. I'm sure there are other juicier targets for them to get through first. Unless it's Trump. Trump seems to be more interested in the appearance of money and power.
Time for the floodgates to open.
Can someone explain the change to me? I do not understand how it was done before, why that was bad, and how this is different and better. (Things I probably would have included in the article, had I written it)
Historically, these investigations have been handled by the higher-ups in the chain of command. Say one soldier raped another and the victim reported it. Their mutual boss and that boss's bosses would be responsible for any investigation and discipline.
They have the same negative incentive to provide thorough investigation and justice as college campus police do - because in the end it makes them look bad at their jobs and makes the institution that signs their paychecks look bad. So they just don't. Often victims are ignored or worse, disciplined themselves.
This change will provide a third party not involved in the chain of command for reporting and investigation of sexual assault allegations.
Ok that definitely gives me some context. Thanks!
But wouldn't them handling it properly, which is part of their job, make them look good at their jobs? ~Strawberry
No because that means admitting that it happened in the first place. It's a huge problem with reporting. Remember "there'd be less Covid if we just stopped testing for it?" Same problem.
Investigating and prosecuting a rape means admitting that rape happens in your unit. Punishing victims to keep them quiet allows the bosses to continue pretending like it never happens
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What happens if the boss is the rapist?
Adding to @Chetzemoka@kbin.social comment: The military has a peculiar concept for responsibility in command, such that a senior officer or even NCO could have thier career totally ruined for investigating a rape. Not for other crimes, mind you, but some arcane language held that they could be held culpable for not having prevented the attack. Biden has rather firmly corrected that error.
Good addendum, I appreciate it!
I need some good news today and this was it. Solid work. And quick too.
So instead of following the chain of command we'll just skip straight to the guy who dismisses the charges. Finally some efficiency around here!
Is it still cool and edgy to be fatalistic? I think I missed the memo.
I gotta say, I had zero expectation of anything from Biden, but he has definitely delivered a few pretty good somethings, and this looks like another one. I hope they have a great day today wherever the Bidens are hanging out.
He said he didn’t “want to bore you with detail here,” but that basically,
“I know it may not sound like much,” Kirby said
The headline grabbed my support. This lines cooled my excitement. Thoughts from others? I feel like maybe the headline isn't as much of a grand slam when I see this kind of waffling.
Saying "key decision-making authorities" sounds like exactly that: key positions. Moving key existing positions out of conflict of interest.
To finish your quote:
He said he didn’t “want to bore you with detail here,” but that basically, “this change required a completely different shift in the way these crimes are investigated and prosecuted by taking them outside the chain of command, which already had existing protocols in place in existing judicial system.”
That really explains it, I don't know why you cut it off.
“I know it may not sound like much,” Kirby said, “but it’s a big change to the way the military did it.”
Why did you cut these off where you did?
Editing quotes like he's Alex Jones.
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That's the kind of vibe I get from most of the Biden administration's actions. They make for great lists of actions to show that they're doing something, but in practice how effective is it really?
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