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With the month long heat wave.

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[-] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 114 points 1 year ago

"Why don't you call anymore?"

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 86 points 1 year ago

It's all a hoax, it's not a big deal, it's just hot out.

My family is from Iowa, where they've had record breaking storms 3 out of the last 5 years, heat waves lasting longer than ever in history, record cold, and to top it off, wildfire smoke for the first time ever. (Note that this is after they made fun of Cali for being Cali and being on fire). No, none of these events have registered as connected in any way.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 year ago

Nothing will ever convince these people. They are immune to evidence and argument.

[-] trafguy@midwest.social 48 points 1 year ago

logic will never convince them because they aren't arguing from a position of logic. It's about conforming to the beliefs required to be part of their tribe and/or protecting themselves from coming to terms with the harsh realities of climate change. It's reactionary against a challenge to their beliefs.

You would need to first convince them to consider that their respected authorities could be wrong. But within this reactionary mindset, being wrong is disgraceful. So unless they lose respect for their leaders or manage to shift away from believing fallibility is disgraceful, I don't know if they can be convinced.

[-] UID_Zero@infosec.pub 36 points 1 year ago

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

[-] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This may be one of the most insightful things I've ever read or heard. Are you quoting someone, or should I quote you?

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[-] Sigma@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

maybe if you can convince them that global warming helps out joe biden they will be against it.

You see it's a conspiracy, Sleepy Joe wants us to keep using fossil fuels so the liberals will vote him back it so it looks like he's doing something! The last thing he wants is for us to stop using fossil fuels! I bought an EV today just to spite him

[-] goforliftoff@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Right on par with the old, “Hurr durr of course it’s hot, it’s July!!!1!1!!1!” comments. These are the same folks who, when faced with a polar vortex in December or January, proudly and obnoxiously crow about “global warming.”

Their tiny brains just can't comprehend the difference between weather and climate. I have had meager success explaining that climate change results in worse extremes, colds get colder,hots get hotter, and storms get stronger, but even then it's only some of them that actually listen. The rest are like "I've got it allllll figured out" and refuse to listen, then drive off in their 0.7mpg Ford Tahoe Super Manly Man Maker to go to the grocery store 8 blocks away.

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[-] FullOfBallooons@leminal.space 59 points 1 year ago

According to my father in law: everything's fine, actually. It's hot, sure, but it's been hot before. The actual problem is that The Weather Channel has started to get political/go woke and push an agenda.

So next time it's so hot the power grid can't take it or your house is destroyed in a flood or forest fire, it's just that pesky Weather Channel!

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Fire and Rain have gotten so woke

[-] QuantumQuack@feddit.nl 35 points 1 year ago

They don't care about the heat wave in southern Europe because northern Europe has had a relatively cold and rainy July.

The slightly less dumb ones now say "Yeah it's happening but we shouldn't fight it, we should just accept it" (and then proceed to complain about refugees, which will increase x1000 if we don't do anything but they don't make the connection)

The dumber ones say that it's "natural cycles"

[-] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago

My dad: "the earth goes through natural temperature cycles, I've got some good scientific sources who say it's all natural and climate change is just scaremongering"

Guess that's another topic along with the EU, immigration, COVID, vaccination that I can't talk about with my family.

Makes it hard and frustrating to continue to have a relationship at times.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 21 points 1 year ago

"Amazing dad, do these cycles usually happen in the span of a lifetime?" I don't expect you to say that, I already know his answer. It's whatever Fox News told him to say

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[-] Robertej92@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"hottest summer on record? Give it a rest, they say that every year!"

Also I'm in the UK which has been raining and dreary for the last month so it's not getting as much coverage here.

[-] friendlymessage@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago

"hottest summer on record? Give it a rest, they say that every year!"

That's funny because it's true. Also sad. Mostly sad actually.

[-] magi093@l.tta.wtf 12 points 1 year ago

They're so close...

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They complain about how weird and unprecedented the weather has been the last few years, but if I so much as mention the word "climate" an awkward silence descends. I also had a guy hint at some weird conspiracy theory about the sun recently.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Say weather change and see if that gets the ball rolling.

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[-] squidsarefriends@feddit.de 28 points 1 year ago

Friendly reminder that it’s not about denial anymore. It’s about how urgent is the existential threat of tipping points and how radical and fast should we act.

One side says, let’s stay reasonable, let’s not hurt the economy, don’t panic because of the these crazy Greta maniacs. Source: We managed a lot of crisis in the past, sometimes it’s not that hot, lobby money.

The other side says we have to hit the breaks immediately or a lot of people are going to die. Source: Science.

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[-] noqturn@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

I don’t have climate change denialists in my life. That’s usually indicative of other beliefs and values that don’t jive with mine, and we end up being incompatible as friends.

[-] green_witch@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago

"There is no climate change! It's China and liberals trying to take more of our money!"

My brain... 😮‍💨

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[-] evatronic@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Nothing. They just talk about Biden destroying the economy with Hunter's laptop and Hillary's buttery males.

[-] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

"It's only natural" seems to be the go to.

The people in my personal life, though, are mostly just EXTREMELY wary of just about any information at all.

They are more comfortable putting shit down to some conspiracy, rather than looking at how awful some people are outright.

I don't think they want to admit, or submit to the hopelessness of the situation, especially economically. So they rather keep themselves busy with petty bs.

[-] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 year ago

It's all being done by HAARP. When confronted by sentences like that, all words escape me.

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[-] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 year ago

Mostly "There have always been hot Sommers."

[-] Meptastik@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

"I'm following the real scientist. They're called climatists and they just all banded together and said 'stop all this bullshit reporting' to the mainstream media!"

My soul left my body and I died.

[-] Unquote0270@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

"There was climate change when the Vikings were around so it's not as clear cut as people make out."

In my country we've had the opposite of a heat wave, the worst summer I can remember with rain almost every day and temperatures barely making it above 20 degrees. He says that this shows the planet isn't heating up and jokes that we need more carbon.

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[-] borlax@lemmy.borlax.com 14 points 1 year ago

They compare it to heatwaves from the 1970s…

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 11 points 1 year ago

Boomers never left the 70s

[-] Jaywarbs@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Some are now pivoting to “Climate change is good so we shouldn’t do anything about it.” A US representative fork Wisconsin said that recently, since it means Wisconsin would be warmer during the winter.

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[-] MaxPower@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

I do not have climate change deniers as friends because idiots cannot be my friend.

By now it's pretty obvious what is happening and what probably will happen. The ones unable to understand will inevitably have a hard time and a lower chance of passing on their genes which is fine by me.

[-] DauntingFlamingo@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Hi I'm an idiot and would like to be your friend

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[-] msprout@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same as 20 years ago — "the fact that they want me to give up my truck and Nestle gets to dump plastic in the ocean proves it's all liberal bullshit."

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[-] FARTYSHARTBLAST@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

No idea, I've either changed their minds or stopped talking to them.

[-] zer0@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They would rather make up for lies than admit they are wrong

I feel like I don't hear from them much anymore. Maybe it's because I've managed to finally cut all of them out of my life. Or maybe it's because they've realized that even the people who do accept that climate change is real still aren't going to do anything about it because even the softest, most hands-off forms of mitigation would be too disruptive to capitalism.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don’t know any anymore. I am a passionate debater and educator on climate science so I either convince them or they distance themselves from me.

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